OT: new project: 964->VW Bus, somebody please talk me out of this |
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OT: new project: 964->VW Bus, somebody please talk me out of this |
siverson |
Mar 26 2004, 09:01 PM
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This is way off-topic, but this seems to be the right group of guys to bounce a crazy idea off of. I've thought about doing this for quite a while now, and I've pretty much wrapped up my 914 project, think I've sold my Audi, and nothing out there is exactly what I want.
Basically I'm thinking about "re-bodying" a 964 as a Type 2 VW Bus. Whew, there, I said it. Now, let me explain some of the details... Project goals: - Be totally done in less than a year (914 3.6 took me about 5 years, and I'll never do anything like that again.). - Instead of modifying a Bus to try and get it to be reliable/perform well (-really- well), start with a whole (possibly salvaged but running) 1993-1994 964, and basically build a tube frame, cut things away, and stretch/distort a VW Bus body around it. - when done, it would look 99% like a VW Bus. Minor dimension changes, wider wheels, but all bus. - seat 6 nicely (3 bus bench seats) - Tiptronic transmission, stock 3.6 - all 964 running gear and suspension. Like I said, basically build a tube frame 964 that will accommodate a Type 2 body. - manual windows (from bus) - PS, PB, air conditioning, heater (all from 964) - as quiet as a bus+964 can be. Add sound deadening, but stock bus wind noise is acceptable - end up around 3,000 lbs total - <$50k total cost - great (classic) styling (to me), great performance Without even looking, this is $18k: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=10156 A rusty bus 23-window shell will be $7k. So $25k left to put it all together (maybe less?). Steering linkage I imagine would be tricky... Mount a fuel cell somewhere, keep all 964 critical suspension geometry intact (and possibly even strengthen via the cage). What are other good options for a $50k "biggish" fun car these days? - Audi S4 avant - really nice, this is what I leaning towards right now, but it's $54k new (ouch), and will depreciate like crazy (yes, I know that a $50k VW Bus monster project won't hold its value either, but if it turns out nicely, I can't really imagine ever selling it (like I'll never sell my 914)). - VW Toureg, Cayenne, any full size SUV - too big for me - Subaru WRX Wagon, Subaru Forester XT Boring... But, my 964 Bus would look like this: (IMG:http://www.streamload.com/steve/964_Bus/316800.jpg) (IMG:http://www.streamload.com/steve/964_Bus/316817.jpg) Info: (IMG:http://www.streamload.com/steve/964_Bus/964_dimensions.jpg) (IMG:http://www.streamload.com/steve/964_Bus/kombi_1961_data2.jpg) Basic dimensions comparison: Type 2 VW Bus (1949-1967) Type 964 Porsche 911 (1989-1994) Difference Overall length 168.9 167.3 1.6 Overall width 68.9 65.0 3.9 Overall height 76.4 52.0 24.4 Front track 53.9 54.3 -0.4 Rear track 53.5 54.1 -0.6 Wheelbase 94.5 89.4 5.1 Ground clearance 9.4 4.7 4.7 Weight 2,326.0 3,200.0 -874.0 Possible? Impossible? A huge waste of money? The dumbest idea you've heard in a long time? Vrooom? -Steve |
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