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Late vs Early doors |
jeffdon |
Mar 3 2010, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
DAMMIT.....Futzing around in the shop, I knocked a big length of steel over and it crashed into my once perfectly straight drivers side door on my 72. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Had not sanded it down yet, it was the last panel i had to go. I have a straight door from a later car, with the scissors window mech. and reinforcing bar. however, I have noticed from replacing the passenger door with a later one, there is a BIG weight dif.
So....would you write off the old door and just replace? OR would you fix the dent on the old one? |
shaggy |
Mar 3 2010, 11:41 AM
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mechanic/welder/fabricator Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None |
fix the dent. post some pics it cant be that bad.
just get a stud gun and puller. pull the dent. hammer it back to straight as possible. sand with 80 grit. bondo. shape. 150 grit. self leveling filler. shape. 150 prime. block. prime. block. prime. wet sand. paint. |
RiqueMar |
Mar 3 2010, 12:01 PM
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Enrique Allen Mar Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 28-August 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,478 Region Association: Southern California |
fix the dent. post some pics it cant be that bad. just get a stud gun and puller. pull the dent. hammer it back to straight as possible. sand with 80 grit. bondo. shape. 150 grit. self leveling filler. shape. 150 prime. block. prime. block. prime. wet sand. paint. Since it's the driver door, and it wasn't painted, I vote to replace with a later door. It's reinforced and safer. I did this on mine, as did my Dad on his /6. |
jeffdon |
Mar 3 2010, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
fix the dent. post some pics it cant be that bad. just get a stud gun and puller. pull the dent. hammer it back to straight as possible. sand with 80 grit. bondo. shape. 150 grit. self leveling filler. shape. 150 prime. block. prime. block. prime. wet sand. paint. However, all the newer door needs is some sanding.... The car already is running the mate to the newer door on the passenger side. Just wondered if there was a good reason for keeping the old style door on, other than weight. |
Drums66 |
Mar 3 2010, 02:51 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
fix the dent. just get a stud gun and puller. pull the dent. hammer it back to straight as possible. sand with 80 grit. bondo. shape. 150 grit. self leveling filler. shape. 150 prime. block. prime. block. prime. wet sand. paint. Or let someone else do it(for pay of course) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
jeffdon |
Mar 3 2010, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
fix the dent. just get a stud gun and puller. pull the dent. hammer it back to straight as possible. sand with 80 grit. bondo. shape. 150 grit. self leveling filler. shape. 150 prime. block. prime. block. prime. wet sand. paint. Or let someone else do it(for pay of course) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) As much as I detest body work (the mess, the tedium, the never-endingness of it), its something I am capable of, and hopefully, it will save me a lot of money, so i can spend away on more fun parts of the car. |
McMark |
Mar 3 2010, 07:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You can debate the theoretical benefits of one door over another as long as you want, but my opinion is that for a daily driver type car, who cares. Run what works and enjoy the car.
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shaggy |
Mar 3 2010, 07:54 PM
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mechanic/welder/fabricator Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None |
only reason would be weight. and a newer door only needs sanding assuming you find a good one then you have to pay for it and it should really be stripped completely and then you may find damage underneath.
if you dont wanna do the work bring it my way. ive done tons of body work on cars(porsche only) with 20k+ paint jobs. |
GeorgeRud |
Mar 3 2010, 09:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The later style doors have a better window lifting mechanism, and the advantage of the side impact door beams, though I'm not sure how much they would help if the door jamb isn't reinforced. If I'd be in a side crash, I'd want the side beams.
Having said that, either should work fine, go with your own choice. |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 4 2010, 01:29 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
IIRC, the side seals on the roof panel must be changed to fit the later windows. Then again, I don't think the early seals are available anyway.
--DD |
zx-niner |
Mar 4 2010, 07:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
My experience with early model windows showed the them to be quite fragile. The regulators, the plastic button that holds the regulator to the window, and the metal pieces attached to the window all broke several times over the years. Finding spare regulators at Pick & Pulls is becoming more difficult. And it's a hastle pulling everything out of the door, replacing it and adjusting the window.
The late model regulators appear to be much more robust. My current car has the late model doors and I look forward to many years of trouble-free window operation. As a street-only ride the extra weight is not a factor. |
scotty b |
Mar 4 2010, 07:21 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Toss em both and get a set of 73 doors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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