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> stainless heat exchanger shell set brand new, here is the story
dr914@autoatlanta.com
post Mar 10 2010, 05:11 PM
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I asked and John said that it was not mittelmotor! I am trying to make a deal to get 50 sets for us here.


Do the deal - I'll take a set, George.



Ok sounds like another group buy. If I can make a deal who wants in? I figure if we can get 25 players we can do it. I just got off the phone with John, was talking to him for over an hour. He is improving the sealing flange at the head so that will be great. Call it new and improved, using a better grade stainless or something as well.
I know that the price has everything to do with it and it will be over 500 but not a lot depends on the guy buying the 100. With that said who would be interested? How about a count.
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post Mar 11 2010, 06:01 AM
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post Mar 11 2010, 11:37 AM
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I don't need one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) This is what $800 bucks cost me, SS with SS flanges than ceramic coated & polished.

BTW: I love these pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Mar 11 2010, 02:56 PM
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They look awesome ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:02 PM
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Major bling, looks great Tom. George depending upon finalized price, I'd be interested. Alittle over $500.00, definite yes.
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post Jan 25 2011, 07:35 AM
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I asked and John said that it was not mittelmotor! I am trying to make a deal to get 50 sets for us here.


Did someone lie in the process ???

http://www.mittelmotor.de/content/news/act...sp?articleID=72

1190 EUROS a set + shipping ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

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post Jan 25 2011, 08:38 AM
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roughly $1620.00 + ship. They certianly look nice.
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post Jan 25 2011, 08:50 AM
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I love John to death, we have visited each other and stayed at each other's house and have spent many many hours talking.
I do not think that I am man enough to commit myself .


So, you dont think your man enough for John?
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:24 AM
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Back to the issue of replacement shells, a real danger here is carbon monoxide. If you are installing SS shells over carbon steel pipes, eventually you will have a rusted through pipe emitting exhaust gas into the cabin. Also, how are these shells to be attached? If not seam welded, then you will have leaks and a lot of losses.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:43 AM
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Dang, that's seriously cool, but serious money. My used SSI 2.0s will be for sale unless someone buys them with the motor...for less than 1/2 that.
I just think it's better to shop for a used set, but that's just me.
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:50 AM
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Used sets start to be very expensive ... I have seen sets sold for 800 +
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:10 AM
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The deal for the 100 sets of newly manufactured 2.0 heat exchangers went down and John says that the new ones are a different alloy that is actually improved over the old originals. The alloy he used back then would after awhile corrode and the chromium depletion will not occur. The old ones were not annealed.
The price will probably be higher as the run was so small.
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:22 AM
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The deal for the 100 sets of newly manufactured 2.0 heat exchangers went down and John says that the new ones are a different alloy that is actually improved over the old originals. The alloy he used back then would after awhile corrode and the chromium depletion will not occur. The old ones were not annealed.
The price will probably be higher as the run was so small.


So he finally made a batch of 200 sets for Mittelmotor and told you this was not for them ... And now they have the exclusivity for 5 or more years . Thats it ? ...

I need another job ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:40 AM
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He SAID that he made only 100 sets and not for Mittelmotor but for another guy. He actually told me but I did not recognize the name so forgot it. John said that he was going to forward my e mail so that maybe I could purchase some sets! And all of this after I asked him over and over to make another run and I would buy them!
I guess we Americans are just not strong enough to pay the price as the Euro is so much stronger!


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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Jan 25 2011, 09:10 AM) *

The deal for the 100 sets of newly manufactured 2.0 heat exchangers went down and John says that the new ones are a different alloy that is actually improved over the old originals. The alloy he used back then would after awhile corrode and the chromium depletion will not occur. The old ones were not annealed.
The price will probably be higher as the run was so small.


So he finally made a batch of 200 sets for Mittelmotor and told you this was not for them ... And now they have the exclusivity for 5 or more years . Thats it ? ...

I need another job ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:48 AM
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He SAID that he made only 100 sets and not for Mittelmotor but for another guy. He actually told me but I did not recognize the name so forgot it. John said that he was going to forward my e mail so that maybe I could purchase some sets! And all of this after I asked him over and over to make another run and I would buy them!
I guess we Americans are just not strong enough to pay the price as the Euro is so much stronger!


1190 Euros is not cheap. Even for Europe ... I bet Mittelmotor won't sell a set every week ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:49 AM
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I paid less for my Type3 and the heater works great.

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Not that I would have the money to buy a set, but it would be interesting to read comments from folks who install these new sets. One of the complaints I have about my SS HE's is the volume of noise they produce. It's annoying vs the stock HE's.

If ceramic coating helps, I'm taking mine off and sending them in.

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post Jan 25 2011, 02:14 PM
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I still have one NOS set of 2.0L SSI's with the SS flanges available if anyone is interested. NIB only opened for photos, more pics available. Make me your best offer. These can ship and be on your car immediately they are not vaporware. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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post Jan 25 2011, 04:40 PM
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SS with SS flanges than ceramic coated & polished.


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post Jan 25 2011, 09:54 PM
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I got a set just like that except my wife decided to recycle the cardboard- without telling me.
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:28 PM
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The muffler flanges look great, but the cylinder head flanges look like the same too thin stuff. I'll bet they are 1/3 the thickness of the stock h/e's!

If it's not Mittlemotor, could it be Lothar Stockl?
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