COA issues?, I need more numbers Options

[Socalandy]

So I received my COA for my 70 914-6 #970 and it states my engine case # should be 4411 only to hear that these COA's are often wrong and another member here has a -6 car in the 600's and his COA states his case # is 4418 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

So if you have an early 914-6 car with the original case # can you let me know the last four of the VIN and the case #

I waiting to hear back from Porsche and more numbers will help me point out there's an issue.

Thanks,

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

So I received my COA for my 70 914-6 #970 and it states my engine case # should be 4411 only to hear that these COA's are often wrong and another member here has a -6 car in the 600's and his COA states his case # is 4418 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

So if you have an early 914-6 car with the original case # can you let me know the last four of the VIN and the case #

I waiting to hear back from Porsche and more numbers will help me point out there's an issue.

Thanks,

I am sure that they would not have made a mistake with the engine number, usually they just make mistakes with the options as the codes have been reassigned. Not all engines are in chronological order just as vehicle serial numbers were not assigned in order.
For example I own the last 914-6 GT made (by factory production letter) but the serial number is not the last one!
Bottom line: The numbers are probably right so do not be angry.

[markb]

So I received my COA for my 70 914-6 #970 and it states my engine case # should be 4411 only to hear that these COA's are often wrong and another member here has a -6 car in the 600's and his COA states his case # is 4418 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

So if you have an early 914-6 car with the original case # can you let me know the last four of the VIN and the case #

I waiting to hear back from Porsche and more numbers will help me point out there's an issue.

Thanks,

I am sure that they would not have made a mistake with the engine number, usually they just make mistakes with the options as the codes have been reassigned. Not all engines are in chronological order just as vehicle serial numbers were not assigned in order.
For example I own the last 914-6 GT made (by factory production letter) but the serial number is not the last one!
Bottom line: The numbers are probably right so do not be angry.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

[Socalandy]

Im not angry, I just want the correct info. The info sure seems incorrect if a factory 6 car with an ending VIN in the 600's would have an engine case number 7 digits later than my later car.

With his actual VIN my car is 297 cars later than his. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[SirAndy]

The info sure seems incorrect

Nope, i think it's very much possible the info is correct.

As George has pointed out, the VIN is not a absolute indicator of sequential numbering of other components.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy

[burton73]

Andy,

Engine Case number for vin number 41 is 640.4016 If anyone finds this case I would pay a lot of money for it.

Bob

[McMark]

Andy, maybe we should add a section for engine numbers to the VIN database... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[agentblr]

I have 4 914/6 cases,I will post the #s when I go out to shop this weekend 2 of them are mysteries,and the other 2 from HSR racers that are alive and well.

[Socalandy]

Thanks Guys!!!

[SirAndy]

Andy, maybe we should add a section for engine numbers to the VIN database... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

And a thread where people can post the numbers of spare engine cases they have.

Kind of like a match-making service ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy

[gandalf_025]

Just checked the engine # in my 6.

Car VIN. # 619
Engine# is 4299

I know the engine came with the car.

Hope that helps

[Tom_T]

SoCal Andy (& All) -

IIRC - the 2.0L case nos. would've been a carry forward of the 911 2.0 series from +/- `67-69 MY's IIRC (I don't recall which MY there was a change in the 911 2.0 case design/nos. - if at all).

So wouldn't it make sense that the earliest 914-6's which used the now outmoded 911 engine cases (since 911 went to 2.2L in 70 MY) with a continuing case number?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If that were the case, then you could probably subtract the rough number of production 911's from the late 60's MY's using that case first, then compare the "net number" to your series.

However, at another topic in O&H we'd established that 73 MY 914-4 2.0 case nos. were out of sequence with the VINs, as well as with build dates. For example, mine was built 8/72 with chassis no. on 8/31/72 & VIN ...001954 with GA000424, while another 914-2.0 had a Sept. 72 build & chassis dates (don't recall VIN sequence), but the case was in the high 300's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Key for you is that the case no. matches your case in the 914, or that you can prove with continuous documentation that the case no. in there is in fact the original (e.g.: an early service receipt showing that case no.).

If you run into resistance from the COA staff, then PM me for the email & tel. of their Customer Service GM who I had to go through to get my COA corrected.

Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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[Tom_T]

Andy,

Engine Case number for vin number 41 is 640.4016 If anyone finds this case I would pay a lot of money for it.

Bob

Last 4 digits - 4016, .... IIRC 640 is part no. identifier for the series of 2.0L 6.

[Tom_T]

Andy, maybe we should add a section for engine numbers to the VIN database... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

And a thread where people can post the numbers of spare engine cases they have.

Kind of like a match-making service ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
Excellent idea! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tom_T]

So far for the record - you've got:

VIN: - Case No:

0041 - 4016

0619 - 4299

0970 - 4411

Andy - at least they seem to generally track with the VINs above, and if +/- 3975 were used in prior years' 911's for 69 MY & earlier, then it's pretty close. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Anyone know what the 69, 68, 67 911 production was using these 2.0L cases, predating the 914-6's?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

What case is in yours now Andy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[Socalandy]

adding a section for case numbers would be great!!

Tom, my car has no engine and thats why I want to get good info so if the gods are good to me I can find the orig. case for my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

[Tom_T]

adding a section for case numbers would be great!!

Tom, my car has no engine and thats why I want to get good info so if the gods are good to me I can find the orig. case for my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

Quick - run & look on classifieds here & .club - & I saw someone in CO selling 1 or 2 on TheSamba under Porsche parts classifieds just last week or so (go back a few weeks/months just in case they still have it). Maybe you'll get lucky!

Chances are that case # is it, & if you come up with that # & you've got the "official" PCNA COA which says it is - then who can argue with you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Otherwise, once you're comfortable with that case #, then you could post a "Looking For WTB" at all the usual suspects ...... & again - maybe you'll get lucky!

PS - I've also seen some factory rebuilt 6 motors in the PET, so you might want to query Porsche in Germany via a dealer, to see if maybe that case was turned in as a "core" for the factory rebuild program sometime back when, & maybe is still in stock as a rebuilt long or short block for purchase! ... again, well you know!

I'll PM you if I happen to come across ole 4411 ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[SirAndy]

adding a section for case numbers would be great!!

Done! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)

You can now add a engine number to your VIN profile.


I have yet to come up with a clever way to query that data, but at least now we can start collecting it ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy

[Socalandy]

Sweeeeeeeeeeet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[carr914]

So far for the record - you've got:

VIN: - Case No:

0041 - 4016

0619 - 4299

0970 - 4411

VIN# 673 - Case # According to COA 4419 - Actually 4444

This is what got Socalandy thinking. As Dr914 said the motors were not out in any kind if sequence. Also my chassis # is kind of screwy too.

T.C.