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| angerosa |
 Mar 24 2010, 02:08 PM
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It sounds really fishy. Seller has the vin number and a lot of pictures. Price is too low for what it is. He says car will be delivered to my house, I have 5 days to test drive and I can reject if it is not what was promised. Money stays in escrow with ebay until I release funds. A lot of weird reasons why I can't see it before. he says he started to send the car to the previous purchaser but his loan didn't go through so it's stuck in transit warehouse in Naperville, IL so I can't do a pre-inspection. Car originates from Denver. Just red flags all over the place.
I know the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". I'm looking for someone who has bought a car through e-bay and done this ebay escrow thing or ever heard of it. Car in question is a too clean, 1989 911 turbo for $17,750 with 100K miles. Says it runs like new, leaks no oil and never been in am accident. Going price for this car is at least $30K but you all know that already. Oh yeah and it's a convertible. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Mar 24 2010, 02:12 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Never heard of eBay having an escrow account but why not set one up through First American or another company that will only release the funds once you receive the title for the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| DanT |
Mar 24 2010, 02:19 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
RUN, run very far away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
Mar 24 2010, 02:22 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(angerosa @ Mar 24 2010, 04:08 PM)  It sounds really fishy. Seller has the vin number and a lot of pictures. Price is too low for what it is. He says car will be delivered to my house, I have 5 days to test drive and I can reject if it is not what was promised. Money stays in escrow with ebay until I release funds. A lot of weird reasons why I can't see it before. Another variation on a standard scam. Report it as fraud to EBay, apologize later if it turns out to be legit... Too much money not to do a PPI no matter what. I've seen ads that claim there's no risk 'because the transaction is insured' -- IOW - there is no deal, it's just an insurance scam... I've bought a car through EBay. It was close enough for us to go get it and walk if it was bad. Took a certified check in case it checked out. It did - Joy's driving it today. I wouldn't trust an escrow deal unless you set it up through your bank. I wouldn't know how to check out an escrow company... I bet we can find someone in Chicago who can go see the car - if it's there. I ain't holding my breath... |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 24 2010, 02:24 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,648 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| seebobgo |
Mar 24 2010, 02:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 14-December 05 From: Millersville, Maryland Member No.: 5,273 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(angerosa @ Mar 24 2010, 12:08 PM) It sounds really fishy. Seller has the vin number and a lot of pictures. Price is too low for what it is. He says car will be delivered to my house, I have 5 days to test drive and I can reject if it is not what was promised. Money stays in escrow with ebay until I release funds. A lot of weird reasons why I can't see it before. he says he started to send the car to the previous purchaser but his loan didn't go through so it's stuck in transit warehouse in Naperville, IL so I can't do a pre-inspection. Car originates from Denver. Just red flags all over the place. I know the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". I'm looking for someone who has bought a car through e-bay and done this ebay escrow thing or ever heard of it. Car in question is a too clean, 1989 911 turbo for $17,750 with 100K miles. Says it runs like new, leaks no oil and never been in am accident. Going price for this car is at least $30K but you all know that already. Oh yeah and it's a convertible. I have bought a few cars on the bay...rule 1 look at it first...rule 2 look at it first |
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| tornik550 |
Mar 24 2010, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,248 Joined: 29-January 07 From: Ohio Member No.: 7,486 Region Association: None |
There is no question that is an absolute scam!!!!!!
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Mar 24 2010, 02:40 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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So what if it is meant to be a scam... Beat them at it. Set up Escrow through a company you know and trust and make the terms clear that they are not to release the money until all terms are met. If the seller is unwilling to do it this way than he is most certainly trying to pull one one you.
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| ericread |
Mar 24 2010, 02:40 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(tornik550 @ Mar 24 2010, 01:33 PM) There is no question that is an absolute scam!!!!!! Maybe... But if you're really convinced this is OK, please use "Eric's Escrow service. I run it out of the trunk of my car, so you know it's relaible. BTW; just send me the cash in a FedEx container, I will take care of everything else.... really..... Eric Read (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 24 2010, 02:42 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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If they agree to use what Andy posted, the Ebay official escrow site, then that part is likely ok. But, why would you buy a car without seeing it first? That is nuts. Too fishey.
I bought my Vue off of ebay for about $10K off of blue book (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 24 2010, 02:43 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Oh ya, I am sure we have someone in that area that could swing buy and look at it. Get an address for the place (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Lets have fun with the guy if he is not legit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Find out which company, call to see if there is that car there. Tell the seller you just happen to have a friend that works at that warehouse.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 24 2010, 03:21 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(angerosa @ Mar 24 2010, 01:08 PM) It sounds really fishy. Seller has the vin number and a lot of pictures. Price is too low for what it is. He says car will be delivered to my house, I have 5 days to test drive and I can reject if it is not what was promised. Money stays in escrow with ebay until I release funds. A lot of weird reasons why I can't see it before. he says he started to send the car to the previous purchaser but his loan didn't go through so it's stuck in transit warehouse in Naperville, IL so I can't do a pre-inspection. Car originates from Denver. Just red flags all over the place. I know the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". I'm looking for someone who has bought a car through e-bay and done this ebay escrow thing or ever heard of it. Car in question is a too clean, 1989 911 turbo for $17,750 with 100K miles. Says it runs like new, leaks no oil and never been in am accident. Going price for this car is at least $30K but you all know that already. Oh yeah and it's a convertible. Why would you even ask about this? I can't imagine a more obvious scam. The Cap'n |
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| RJMII |
Mar 24 2010, 03:51 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 24 2010, 02:43 PM) Oh ya, I am sure we have someone in that area that could swing buy and look at it. Get an address for the place (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Lets have fun with the guy if he is not legit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Find out which company, call to see if there is that car there. Tell the seller you just happen to have a friend that works at that warehouse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Awhile back I saw a website that messed with Nigerian scammers by making them do ridiculous things in order to get anywhere. One of them sent a sculpture to try to get a fake art grant that the potential scamee had concocted in order to scam back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| ArtechnikA |
Mar 24 2010, 04:08 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(RJMII @ Mar 24 2010, 05:51 PM) Awhile back I saw a website that messed with Nigerian scammers by making them do ridiculous things in order to get anywhere. One of them sent a sculpture to try to get a fake art grant that the potential scamee had concocted in order to scam back. Such as: How To Scam The Scammers |
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| angerosa |
Mar 24 2010, 04:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-August 07 From: Reston, VA Member No.: 8,023 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm looking into the ebay escrow thing. I've e-mailed him back for a working phone number and asked him where he is located. I'm trying to get more information about exactly where the car is. This is totally a scam. I'm pretty sure he wants to set up the escrow account. I'm pressing him. He hasn't written me back yet.
Anyone have carfax? WP0EB093XKS070514 |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 24 2010, 04:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,648 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(angerosa @ Mar 24 2010, 03:41 PM) Anyone have carfax? WP0EB093XKS070514 No, but i have Google. Looks like the car has been for sale a lot ... http://www.google.com/search?q=WP0EB093XKS...lient=firefox-a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| angerosa |
Mar 24 2010, 05:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-August 07 From: Reston, VA Member No.: 8,023 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
yup - that's the car in the pictures!
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| etcmss |
Mar 24 2010, 05:37 PM
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etcmss Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Lancaster, Ky Member No.: 5,899 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You serious about the car? I'm about 30 miles from Naperville, Ill.
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| ArtechnikA |
Mar 24 2010, 06:09 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
I have every confidence the car is _not_ in a storage company in Naperville. There will be some reason why it can't be seen. "Safety regulations." "Insurance Requirements." "The only guy with the key is on vacation in Uzbekistan."
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| naro914 |
Mar 24 2010, 07:11 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
I've bought cars on ebay. In fact my first ebay purchase was my current 993 cab back in 2002.
Bought probably 5-10 of them when I owned Exclusive Motors. And yes...we got scammed once. Sent a deposit on a car that was 'too good to be true'. Turns out, so did about 10 other people....and nobody ever saw the car. Rule #1: DO NOT BUY IT unless you can see and drive it first - in person. Rule #2: See rule #1 Rule #3: talk to the seller a lot, get more pictures, ask questions, and definitely get a PPI. If he refuses, run away. That Turbo could cost you twice what he's 'asking' to fix. Rule #4: See rule #1 again. |
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