GT flares Fiberglass vs. steel, advantage / disadvantage |
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GT flares Fiberglass vs. steel, advantage / disadvantage |
Dirty Evo |
Mar 30 2010, 06:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: 2-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,198 Region Association: Northern California |
ok... so what are the DISADVANTAGES of fiberglass GT flares as opposed to steel fender flares? this would be for primarily a fun track car (non-competative, just HPDE) maybe occasional street use very seldom.
Should I avoid something with fiberglass? or is it not really a big deal ? |
Porcharu |
Mar 30 2010, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
For a track car I would use fiberglass - you can get bigger flares and if you rivet them on they are a whole lot easier to replace if you break one. If I do a track car it will have FG flares - the street car is going to be steel.
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Rand |
Mar 30 2010, 07:32 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
I think the fiberglass is more prone to pitting and other wear damage over time. Might not seem to make sense because both steel and fg get painted, but the paint holds up better over steel because the material under it is so much harder and doesn't give when hit with dirt/debris from the road.
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RJMII |
Mar 30 2010, 07:32 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
Street car needs steel, so you can pick the car up by the fender still to fit the floor jack under it when it goes on jackstands.
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BenNC |
Mar 30 2010, 07:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Cary, NC Member No.: 267 |
I'm replacing my FG flares with steel (street and track car).
FWIW - I thought I had the flares epoxied on really well. It took about 20 minutes with a heat gun and putty knife to get the first on off. The others will probably be faster. |
jmill |
Mar 30 2010, 08:38 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Steel takes road debris way better. The FG ones will star crack on you from rock hits. You also can't butt weld fiberglass on. You'll have more filler if you bond FG on. I have seen FG flares bolted on very clean.
Here's Retrotech's car w/ FG: Attached image(s) |
sean_v8_914 |
Mar 30 2010, 09:29 PM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
COST.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Mar 30 2010, 09:46 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Coming from someone who has fiberglass flares I would have to say I really have no clue if one is better than the other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . After learning how easy the glass is to repair and work with it is really not an issue to fix. Sure the metal "should" be better for a street car I guess. I would say if you have a real 6 and you are making a GT clone out of true factory flares it would matter for the return$. For a track car... dunno if it really makes a big difference one way or the other.
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pbanders |
Mar 30 2010, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 805 |
FWIW, my car has fiberglas flares. They were installed in 1977, the car was repainted in 1982. They're still perfect, no cracks, no issues.
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retrotech |
Mar 30 2010, 11:08 PM
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retrotech Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-November 03 From: Mosier, Oregon Member No.: 1,302 |
Fiberglass, Light weight!!! The gift that keeps on giving. The cheapest HP you will ever get is less weight.
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Root_Werks |
Mar 31 2010, 09:09 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,317 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
For a track car I would use fiberglass - you can get bigger flares and if you rivet them on they are a whole lot easier to replace if you break one. If I do a track car it will have FG flares - the street car is going to be steel. Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I've put on a number of FG flares and they all seemed to have lasted years, one set over a decade now. If you do FG right, they are fine for street use. But if I had a choice, it'd be steel for street and probably removable FG for track use. It's mostly about cost I wager. It was for me when I did FG flares. Just didn't have the funds at the time for steel flares. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 31 2010, 10:21 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,841 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
steel also reinforces the body and makes the car much more valuable (no I am not tooting my own horn!!!!)
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jt914-6 |
Mar 31 2010, 10:46 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
I've got steel flares and the car is a street/DE car. One advantage is it seems is FG flares let you use 9" rear wheels where it seems like the steel ones can only get 8" wheels. I've got three sets of wheels, 2 sets Fuchs/1set BBS and there is no way I can get any wider rears on. Maybe a differend inside offset in a 9" would work. A friend had a 914 with FG flares and the rocks from the track/slicks began spider cracking the OUTSIDE of his paint on the rears...A dedicated track car would be better off with FG...Have another friend who has FG flares and his 9" BBS fit just fine. We're going to try his 9's on my rear and see if they will go, but I'm betting they won't....
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iamchappy |
Mar 31 2010, 11:05 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
On fiberglass when you paint stick to light colors. The use of great stuff expanding foam on the inside of the flares will eliminate star cracks from damage caused by rocks and stones.
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DBCooper |
Mar 31 2010, 11:10 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
steel also reinforces the body and makes the car much more valuable (no I am not tooting my own horn!!!!) No? Well of course you are! So here you are, Doc. I assumed you'd be absent until the website thing got all straightened out. You commenting yet? Edit: Oops, he was there when I posted, not there now. He'll be back.... |
andys |
Mar 31 2010, 11:23 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
I've got steel flares and the car is a street/DE car. One advantage is it seems is FG flares let you use 9" rear wheels where it seems like the steel ones can only get 8" wheels. I've got three sets of wheels, 2 sets Fuchs/1set BBS and there is no way I can get any wider rears on. Maybe a differend inside offset in a 9" would work. A friend had a 914 with FG flares and the rocks from the track/slicks began spider cracking the OUTSIDE of his paint on the rears...A dedicated track car would be better off with FG...Have another friend who has FG flares and his 9" BBS fit just fine. We're going to try his 9's on my rear and see if they will go, but I'm betting they won't.... I'm nearly finished with the install of fiberglass flare, but also have a set of steel flares I recently bought. My 255/40/17 on 9" just barely fit the rear fiberglass flare and was wondering if those would fit under the steel flares. Let us know if the 9" fit. Andys |
pcar916 |
Mar 31 2010, 11:35 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
I've had fiberglass for 16 years with no worries. The only thing, which most know is for any rivets used during the installation to be drilled out and filled before painting.
They expand at a different rate from the surrounding fiberglass/filler and eventually bubble up the paint. But fiberglass is a cinch to repair. Good Luck |
J P Stein |
Mar 31 2010, 11:42 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
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andys |
Mar 31 2010, 11:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
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jt914-6 |
Mar 31 2010, 11:49 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
I've had fiberglass for 16 years with no worries. The only thing, which most know is for any rivets used during the installation to be drilled out and filled before painting. They expand at a different rate from the surrounding fiberglass/filler and eventually bubble up the paint. But fiberglass is a cinch to repair. Good Luck Ron, wondering minds want to know......We have to see if your 9's fit under my steel flares.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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