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V8 Radiator Sources |
kyracedog |
Mar 31 2010, 08:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 19-November 05 From: kentucky Member No.: 5,151 |
Ok V8 guys, what type of radiators did you use? I know Renegade sells a kit that works, but $1100 is a budget buster. Already have the dual fans to use, so don't need them.
Looking for ideas/suggestions/sources. Thanks. |
stewteral |
Oct 9 2010, 11:20 AM
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Old Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 4-December 07 From: Camarillo, CA Member No.: 8,424 Region Association: Southern California |
Ok V8 guys, what type of radiators did you use? I know Renegade sells a kit that works, but $1100 is a budget buster. Already have the dual fans to use, so don't need them. Looking for ideas/suggestions/sources. Thanks. Hey Kyracedog, I've been running my 914 V8 on-track for some 7 years. It has a 500 HP 383 and I've been running a SUMMIT RACING $160 aluminum Camaro radiator (SUM-380331). It is 31" x 19" and with a little hammer "massaging" fits nicely between the head light boxes. It is a single pass radiator and according to my engineer bud, gives MAX efficiency by presenting the Highest Delta-T to the airflow (the hotter the water presented to cooling air, the more efficient the heat exchange). With a dual pass, the 1st pass is efficient, but the 2nd pass is cooler and less efficient. I'm afraid I know Scottie all too well at Renegade and there is NO engineering talent there. They don't know how to do "research." They don't make any of their parts for the conversion kits and when my engineer bud visited the Las Vegas shop, found nothing but an open bay and hand tools. Their work is "back yard mechanic", at best. Scottie bought the company from the original founder and is just "turning the crank" to make $$.....IMO. Scottie's "profession" before Renegade was as a Disc Jockey. As a rule of thumb, if your conversion is modest power, 300 - 400 HP, you can probably be OK with venting the radiator air through the fender wells as most do. However, if you are going 400HP+or live in a hot climate (I run at Willow Springs in the HOT upper desert of SOCAL), I found out the "hard-way" (or would you call that "Research?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) that venting out through the hood is THE ANSWER. I posted my finding on the paddock forum a few months back. Regardless, be sure to CONTROL the airflow with ducting to assure ALL goes through the radiator. I my experiences can help you, Terry Attached image(s) |
BRAVE_HELIOS |
Oct 25 2010, 06:53 PM
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"Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens" Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 25-September 06 From: The Land Of ID! Member No.: 6,920 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Ok V8 guys, what type of radiators did you use? I know Renegade sells a kit that works, but $1100 is a budget buster. Already have the dual fans to use, so don't need them. Looking for ideas/suggestions/sources. Thanks. Hey Kyracedog, I've been running my 914 V8 on-track for some 7 years. It has a 500 HP 383 and I've been running a SUMMIT RACING $160 aluminum Camaro radiator (SUM-380331). It is 31" x 19" and with a little hammer "massaging" fits nicely between the head light boxes. It is a single pass radiator and according to my engineer bud, gives MAX efficiency by presenting the Highest Delta-T to the airflow (the hotter the water presented to cooling air, the more efficient the heat exchange). With a dual pass, the 1st pass is efficient, but the 2nd pass is cooler and less efficient. I'm afraid I know Scottie all too well at Renegade and there is NO engineering talent there. They don't know how to do "research." They don't make any of their parts for the conversion kits and when my engineer bud visited the Las Vegas shop, found nothing but an open bay and hand tools. Their work is "back yard mechanic", at best. Scottie bought the company from the original founder and is just "turning the crank" to make $$.....IMO. Scottie's "profession" before Renegade was as a Disc Jockey. As a rule of thumb, if your conversion is modest power, 300 - 400 HP, you can probably be OK with venting the radiator air through the fender wells as most do. However, if you are going 400HP+or live in a hot climate (I run at Willow Springs in the HOT upper desert of SOCAL), I found out the "hard-way" (or would you call that "Research?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) that venting out through the hood is THE ANSWER. I posted my finding on the paddock forum a few months back. Regardless, be sure to CONTROL the airflow with ducting to assure ALL goes through the radiator. I my experiences can help you, Terry So I finally decided to buy a 27.5" x 16" Griffin radiator... sans filler neck. I started looking into the purchase of a fan and bought a 1994 Lincoln Mark VIII fan for $20.00! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They say that this is one of the most powerful fans available, period! But now I'm confronted with the news that i must increase the capacity of my alternator to a cs130, 105 amp unit... minimum. I must also use hi amp relays and possibly, special hi capacity controllers. I guess these fans draw about 100 amps when they first kick in, then settle down to about 30 amps! I now have a standard 55 amp alternator in place. I guess now would be as good a time as any to upgrade. Anybody install one of these fans in your rig? I could sure use some really good wiring diagrams! Thanks! |
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