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901 transmissions, trying to guage value |
dgw |
Apr 9 2010, 12:28 PM
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Dennis Winter Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Santa Cruz Mountains Member No.: 106 Region Association: Northern California |
I have two if these. They need bearings, syncro's, and maybe even some gears. I need to move them as they are currently at the shop where my Porsche is worked on. I don't have a clue what they might be worth, and the cost of packaging and shipping is probably prohibitive.
I'll list them in the classified section with a few more details after I have some idea how to price them. Anybody have suggestions? |
pcar916 |
Apr 9 2010, 12:33 PM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
Are these 901 (from early 911's) or 914 transaxles? Big difference.
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davep |
Apr 9 2010, 12:34 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,138 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Get the serial #'s and type #'s from the rib on the bottom of the case (stamped #'s, not raised casting numbers). This will allow me to determine the original configuration at least. There are a heck of a lot of possible varieties. If you can, also include the casting date (xx/yy) and the casting part number from the side of the main case. Al or Mg case material? Output flange type or a photo would help.
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ericread |
Apr 9 2010, 12:46 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
I have two if these. They need bearings, syncro's, and maybe even some gears. Without additional information, and assuming the R&P gears are sound, I would estimate the cores are worth $50 to $75 max. A fully functional 901 in pretty good shape fetches ~$150-$200 here in LA. f the R&P gears are funked-up, then I wouldn't assume any real value. There seem to be a good number of decent 901's out there. Eric Read |
charliew |
Apr 9 2010, 12:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
A coupla years ago a 911/901 in good shape was going for 350-400-500. I know as I bought a few and that was the best price I could find for a tranny that was guaranteed good working order. I'm sure if you are in a good area of lots of 901's the price would be lower though. Not sure what a core would have. Just a usablecase? I did buy a few 914/901's cheap (100-150) for parts.
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dgw |
Apr 9 2010, 01:24 PM
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Dennis Winter Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Santa Cruz Mountains Member No.: 106 Region Association: Northern California |
They are from 914's. One I think was a 1970 or 1971, the other was a 1973.
I'll try to get pictures and numbers in the next day or two. Thanks all. |
Dr Evil |
Apr 9 2010, 01:40 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
70-71 is parts, maybe. 73 has better guts and can be from $25-250 depending on condition. I am surprised that more people do not pull the stack before buying. Its not like an oyster, you can put it back together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Pulling the stack to check the R/P is a must if you want actual money for them. Otherwise, you cut your sale price by having them assumed to be cores of questionable quality.
Oh ya, for shipping info, clink on my rebuild link below. Less than $100 coast to coast on GreyHound. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 9 2010, 01:51 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Then they're "914" transmissions. NOT "901"s, although they're in the same family.
The Cap'n |
Andyrew |
Apr 9 2010, 01:54 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd list them @ 100ea, sell them for 75 ea for the first week if you have a local buyer, then if you cant get a buyer, sell them for 50ea.
I sold a good spare for 75 at a swap meet, and a good core for 25.. but those are swap meet prices.. |
underthetire |
Apr 9 2010, 02:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm somewhat local, i'd only pay about 50 bucks for a core side shift like the 73. The tailshifters i've been offered for free or beer.
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Dr Evil |
Apr 9 2010, 02:34 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Drums66 |
Apr 9 2010, 03:15 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'd list them @ 100ea, sell them for 75 ea for the first week if you have a local buyer, then if you cant get a buyer, sell them for 50ea. I sold a good spare for 75 at a swap meet, and a good core for 25.. but those are swap meet prices.. Andyrew....you're a fine man! |
realred914 |
Apr 9 2010, 04:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
Then they're "914" transmissions. NOT "901"s, although they're in the same family. The Cap'n No, they are 901. The ones in a 911 are 911/901, the ones in a 912 are 902 or other. I've always heard of them 914 trannys refered to as 901 type or series. Yes some 911 cars used the 901 series too, but with details like mounting and shift stuff more or less different, The 901's all had a the same guts, more or less. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 9 2010, 07:05 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Then they're "914" transmissions. NOT "901"s, although they're in the same family. The Cap'n No, they are 901. The ones in a 911 are 911/901, the ones in a 912 are 902 or other. Not to be obstinate, but here are some facts of which you should be aware. There are early 901/x and 902/x trannies, with the chill cast aluminum housings. The 902/x was originally installed in a number of 911 models, as well as the 912. The 901/x was also used in 911s, but not in 912s. The 1969 cars used a version of the 901/x, but the specs book indicates the same codes as the earlier cars. The housings are light metal (a mag alloy) and the diffs are substantially larger. For 1970 and 1971, the transmissions are clearly called out as 911/x. Early 914s used the 914/11 transmission, later models used the 914/12. My specs book and shop manual do not offer a designation for the 914/6 tranny. The 905 variant used the same gears as the 901, 902, 911, and 914 trannies, but with some relatively uncommon gear and ring and pinion ratios. The Cap'n |
Andyrew |
Apr 9 2010, 11:50 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd list them @ 100ea, sell them for 75 ea for the first week if you have a local buyer, then if you cant get a buyer, sell them for 50ea. I sold a good spare for 75 at a swap meet, and a good core for 25.. but those are swap meet prices.. Andyrew....you're a fine man! Lemme guess, you picked up a good spare for 75 bucks at the last parts heaven swap meet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Drums66 |
Apr 10 2010, 12:26 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'd list them @ 100ea, sell them for 75 ea for the first week if you have a local buyer, then if you cant get a buyer, sell them for 50ea. I sold a good spare for 75 at a swap meet, and a good core for 25.. but those are swap meet prices.. Andyrew....you're a fine man! Lemme guess, you picked up a good spare for 75 bucks at the last parts heaven swap meet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Uh Uh......just giving you a compliment....my wallet would'nt let me buy something like that at a flea market, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)P.S your daddy brought you up right!! |
charliew |
Apr 10 2010, 10:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
On one of my ebay 901 purchases I ended up with a aluminum 901 that actually looks a little smaller on the outside case dimensions and I sorta remember that maybe it has smaller cv flanges also. When I tried to figgure it out I think it was one of the very early 901's. It's supposed to be in good condition but for me it will only be a risk as if it breaks I'll need a later 901 to replace it. I would probably only use it with a t1 motor anyway like maybe in a dunebuggy or a fg speedster I have. I don't know squat about 356's but it may have come from one of those if they had a 5 spd. which I think they did.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 11 2010, 09:51 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
A chill cast 901 or 902 is from a 911 or 912 1964-1968. They're physically a little smaller. 356s were never equipped with 5 speed transaxles, and used a swing axle setup similar to the one in a VW bug manufactured prior to 1969. If you'll tell me the numbers stamped on the ridge along the bottom of the housing, I can tell you what you have, unless someone's changed the gear ratios. It'll be 9xx/x or 9xx/xx.
The Cap'n |
dgw |
Apr 11 2010, 11:14 AM
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Dennis Winter Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Santa Cruz Mountains Member No.: 106 Region Association: Northern California |
I wont have the numbers until next week, but I do have a correction, both are out of 1973 914's.
Edit:I guess that would be this week, since its already Sunday. |
charliew |
Apr 11 2010, 11:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Cap'n, The early 901 numbers are: serial, 237579 number on bottom flange, 902/1, some casting numbers I just noticed are: 901.301.101.OR and 5/67 in a real small number. I guess the easy part is it was assembled from a 67 casting. I also assume it can use a 200mm 12v flywheel and starter?
Sorry about the 901 hyjack dgw |
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