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> How bad is my rusty ear?, Give it to me straight
cstone12
post Apr 11 2010, 08:17 PM
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I was under my car this weekend replacing the alternator thanks to a great post I found on this site. Anyway, I took the opportunity to poke around with a screwdriver and woops... it went right through my driver side rear suspension ear! One of the POs fixed the hell hole and ear but evidently didn't make it to the other side. I have a 110v MIG that is probably about the cheapest one you can find but will I be able to use something like that to repair this? Is the car even safe to drive? There are too many good things about this car to abandon it due to this. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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post Apr 11 2010, 08:20 PM
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I think you need to pull the engine, buy a suspension ear and an engine shelf and weld them on. The hard part is cutting the old one off. Your 110v mig will do the job.
Your car looks like it's worth it.
I think GPR has one in stock.
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post Apr 11 2010, 08:28 PM
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nice looking car. are those fuches 15 X 5.5 ? i recently got interested in wheels and yours look really nice.
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post Apr 11 2010, 08:59 PM
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If that were my car I wouldn't drive it until I hacked off those assemblies and welded new ones on. Your car looks nice and is worth the effort. You can do it. We can help...kinda, support & knowledge
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post Apr 11 2010, 09:09 PM
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I have only been butchering 914s for about 8 weeks now (not quite my first rodeo, though) so take this as you will . . . I wouldn't push that car beyond puttering to the famer's market until it's repaired. Remove the left suspension, reference everything and weld the flanges all around. The bigger problem is that the consoles seem to corrode from the inside out, so you may have it a lot worse in places you can't currently see. There is a great thread somewhere on this site where the owner boxed his ears in with what I believe were custom pieces.
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post Apr 11 2010, 09:13 PM
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Probably a little rust above and in the long. I'll pull the motor and survey the extent of the cancer. The good news is these parts are available. You may have caught it before it has become a major surgery.

I hope.
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post Apr 11 2010, 09:32 PM
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Yes pull the motor & replace the shelf & ear. I would not drive that anywhere. It will cause alot more damage if it gives while your driving. Not worth it! Especially as nice as the rest of your car looks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mine cracked on my v8 car & luckily I caught it before it gave. Good catch
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post Apr 11 2010, 10:08 PM
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Yes pull the motor & replace the shelf & ear. I would not drive that anywhere. It will cause alot more damage if it gives while your driving. Not worth it! Especially as nice as the rest of your car looks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mine cracked on my v8 car & luckily I caught it before it gave. Good catch

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post Apr 11 2010, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 11 2010, 11:08 PM) *

QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 11 2010, 08:32 PM) *

Yes pull the motor & replace the shelf & ear. I would not drive that anywhere. It will cause alot more damage if it gives while your driving. Not worth it! Especially as nice as the rest of your car looks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mine cracked on my v8 car & luckily I caught it before it gave. Good catch

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While your at it, go ahead and replace the rubber brake lines - It's time...
You might seriously consider the metal ones too...
They look to be original as well -

Your car is beautiful, and I am sure you would like to keep it that way -

Best!!

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post Apr 12 2010, 01:49 AM
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You might want to take care of the bee in the third picture also before you start tearing into your car too much. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Apr 12 2010, 04:20 AM
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AFAIK, only passenger side inner consoles (& engine shelfs) are available new.
Most donor cars are going to have rust in that area too so you will probably have to fabricate your own replacement pieces.
The engine should be removed to do the repair.
While the suspension is apart you should seriously consider installing replacement bushings since the one pictured is pretty well knackered.
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post Apr 12 2010, 05:29 AM
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I had a simular problem, so I deopped the engine, bought a new ear assembly from AA, installed SS fuel lines form a vendor member, replaced my brake lines and firewall bushings. Fiexd my hell hole and generally cleaned everthing up and of course got very fimiluar with my car and what was really under all that 30+ year old paint, dirt and PO muck up. Mike
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post Apr 12 2010, 07:28 AM
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disgusting looking! Fortunately the drivers side does not rust much so used are commonly available. Let us know if you cannot find one and we will cut one out for you.

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I was under my car this weekend replacing the alternator thanks to a great post I found on this site. Anyway, I took the opportunity to poke around with a screwdriver and woops... it went right through my driver side rear suspension ear! One of the POs fixed the hell hole and ear but evidently didn't make it to the other side. I have a 110v MIG that is probably about the cheapest one you can find but will I be able to use something like that to repair this? Is the car even safe to drive? There are too many good things about this car to abandon it due to this. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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post Apr 12 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 11 2010, 09:08 PM) *

QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 11 2010, 08:32 PM) *

Yes pull the motor & replace the shelf & ear. I would not drive that anywhere. It will cause alot more damage if it gives while your driving. Not worth it! Especially as nice as the rest of your car looks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mine cracked on my v8 car & luckily I caught it before it gave. Good catch

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You do want to get in there and find the full extent of the damage..
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post Apr 12 2010, 09:18 AM
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passenger side is easier as George stated.
driver's side is unobtanium as a new stamping
used driver's side is a pitch to harvest from donor car
once you harvest off donor, it's likely to be rusty also as in attached photos
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:13 AM
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The outside looks bad, but the fact that it rots from the INSIDE out hides the worst of it. Fix it right if you plan to keep it or do a scab plate over the top and sell it.

The battery acid and water leaks down from the top between the two pieces, rusting it from the inside. I've done two of them and once did a scab plate, later to fix it right.

BTW, the bushing looks to be toast, too.
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Rico Suave @ Apr 12 2010, 01:13 PM) *

The battery acid and water leaks down from the top between the two pieces, rusting it from the inside.

First time I heard of a battery mounted on the left side of a 914 engine compartment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:27 AM
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I assumed it was the passenger side..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:58 AM
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reading is good mike
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Two words, Back Pain......never saw a driver side go bad, finding a replacement should be interesting. Do they even make that side?

BTW, I see you worked out a deal with Rich on those fakies. I sent him the link on your ad......yer welcome.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Still looking for a windshield if know where one is.....

Sorry for the hijack....NOT!
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