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> My front oil cooler setup -- why's it failing?, Installed May 2007
GTeener
post Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
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May this be a lesson to us all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Driving from Fair Oaks/Sacramento to Vacaville last Sunday. Filled the tank up before leaving town (1/2 tank of Premium gas). During freeway drive, started noticing and getting concerned by the rising oil temp and falling oil pressure. Peaked at 260+ oil temp and the 30 psi oil pressure reading on the gauges.

The engine made a sputter crackle sound like it was running rich at one point in slow traffic at the Hwy 50 & Hwy 80 merge. There was a puff of dark smoke upon acceleration. The engine didn't stop sputtering and there's been a knocking sound ever since, but there's no dark smoke. Lost my go power too. Feels like it isn't in the proper gear or something. Possibly missing a cylinder??

I stopped for lunch in Davis to let the engine cool off and stretch the dog. Drove some more without any noticeable improvement in the temp or power situation. Stopped at a 76 station in Vacaville to look more closely.

There is oil in the tank and it looks clean, but the level is above the fill dot.
No distributor wires are loose. Engine bay looks clean...No obvious oil leaks/spray. Got flatbed towed the rest of the way home by AAA.

Best I can tell, the oil may not be circulating properly. Best guess is that the thermostat isn't opening or there is a block in the oil cooler line somewhere but don't know why.

Leamon Stansell (HealToe914) did the oil cooler setup work in May 2007 (pictures below).

The car hadn't been driven much since. Half the tank of gas was 7 mos old (Premium) when I hit the freeway on Sunday.

Waiting for Rich Walton at Jerry Woods Enterprises to give me the go ahead to have the car towed to them for further diagnosis and repair but thought it *might* be worth getting *the group's* opinions/experiences on the subject.



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GTeener   My front oil cooler setup -- why's it failing?   Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You simply CANNOT use camshafts with CIS. While i...   May 25 2010, 12:37 PM
SLITS   You simply CANNOT use camshafts with CIS. While ...   May 25 2010, 12:46 PM
GTeener   You simply CANNOT use camshafts with CIS. While...   May 25 2010, 01:52 PM
SLITS   Gwen, the other point in this whole thing is that ...   May 25 2010, 02:33 PM
ArtechnikA   Most everyone I know will question a mechanics ab...   May 25 2010, 03:59 PM
GTeener   Most everyone I know will question a mechanics a...   May 25 2010, 04:49 PM
BigDBass   :popcorn: Future classic thread? Very educational ...   May 25 2010, 02:42 PM
J P Stein   There is $2k+ worth of parts from that old mo...   May 25 2010, 04:49 PM
GTeener   These are the core parts he is crediting me ...   May 25 2010, 05:50 PM
ArtechnikA   These are the core parts he is crediting me ...   May 25 2010, 05:58 PM
GTeener   These are the parts for the CIS conversion (no cam...   May 25 2010, 06:01 PM
GTeener   close up of a CIS head replacement Tom's plann...   May 25 2010, 06:02 PM
GTeener   The set of CIS heads to be used   May 25 2010, 06:04 PM
GTeener   The following pictured were grabbed from the video...   May 25 2010, 06:09 PM
GTeener   badly scraped aka broken bearing   May 25 2010, 06:11 PM
GTeener   connecting rods (bearings in the back)   May 25 2010, 06:12 PM
GTeener   rod in hand :)   May 25 2010, 06:14 PM
GTeener   crankshaft   May 25 2010, 06:15 PM
GTeener   oil pump, crankshaft, half case, connecting rods (...   May 25 2010, 06:17 PM
GTeener   bearing shell scuffs   May 25 2010, 06:18 PM
GTeener   more bearing shell scuffs elsewhere   May 25 2010, 06:19 PM
GTeener   scuffed piston   May 25 2010, 06:20 PM
GTeener   another bearing starting to wear   May 25 2010, 06:21 PM
GTeener   pistons and cylinders (front right has some cruft ...   May 25 2010, 06:23 PM
GTeener   fly's eye view of pistons & cylinders :D   May 25 2010, 06:26 PM
GTeener   I think I recall Tom saying this case screw was a ...   May 25 2010, 06:28 PM
GTeener   engine oil cooler (says he'll may replace this...   May 25 2010, 06:30 PM
GTeener   case half wear overview   May 25 2010, 06:34 PM
brant   Gwen, I'm no expert but my guess is with all...   May 25 2010, 07:32 PM
GTeener   Perhaps. Tom said there also appears to be too muc...   May 25 2010, 07:45 PM
elmonte   Is this teflon tape? Not something you want floati...   May 25 2010, 10:36 PM
SLITS   Ok Gwen ... here's the marking on pistons ...   May 26 2010, 08:56 AM
GTeener   Thanks Ron. I'll have to look more closely bef...   May 26 2010, 10:56 AM
GTeener   OK, so now that ya'll've seen the parts, t...   May 26 2010, 10:58 AM
ArtechnikA   OK, so now that ya'll've seen the parts, ...   May 26 2010, 12:41 PM
GTeener   OK, so now that ya'll've seen the parts,...   May 26 2010, 05:39 PM
Dr Evil   :agree: I have been watching and trying to figure ...   May 26 2010, 01:42 PM
SLITS   :agree: I have been watching and trying to figure...   May 26 2010, 02:54 PM
GTeener   :idea: In order to sell my MFI "complete...   May 26 2010, 02:11 PM
ArtechnikA   :idea: In order to sell my MFI "complete...   May 26 2010, 02:35 PM
GTeener   FWIW -- Tom is not experimenting with my rebuild. ...   May 26 2010, 02:17 PM
Dr Evil   FWIW -- Tom is not experimenting with my rebuild....   May 26 2010, 02:58 PM
SirAndy   in the $7,500 rebuild closed estimate. You c...   May 26 2010, 05:49 PM
GTeener   in the $7,500 rebuild closed estimate. You ...   May 26 2010, 06:24 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='SirAndy' post='1324119' date='May 26...   May 26 2010, 07:46 PM
brp986s   What shop would do all that work for $500? ...   May 26 2010, 09:05 PM
SirAndy   What shop would do all that work for $500?...   May 27 2010, 02:02 AM
GTeener   What shop would do all that work for $500...   May 27 2010, 07:12 AM
davidj   All you need is someone with tools and some spare...   May 27 2010, 09:52 AM
Dr Evil   Yup. You can modify any WUR to work if necessary, ...   May 26 2010, 02:56 PM
SLITS   Yup. You can modify any WUR to work if necessary,...   May 26 2010, 03:17 PM
GTeener   Yup. You can modify any WUR to work if necessary...   May 26 2010, 06:22 PM
SLITS   [quote name='SLITS' post='1324060' date='May 26 2...   May 26 2010, 06:27 PM
GTeener   :idea: Wonder if an admin type should break up th...   May 26 2010, 06:35 PM
campbellcj   Sorry if I missed something in this unfolding saga...   May 27 2010, 10:24 AM
GTeener   Sorry if I missed something in this unfolding sag...   May 28 2010, 07:32 AM
GTeener   itemized parts & work list arrived in the mail...   Jun 1 2010, 06:35 PM
Justinp71   Ah so it appears the mfi pump failed and dumped to...   Jun 1 2010, 06:54 PM
ArtechnikA   Ah so it appears the mfi pump failed and dumped t...   Jun 1 2010, 07:01 PM
Root_Werks   Years back I did a 914-6 with 2.2 MFI 'E' ...   Jun 2 2010, 09:42 AM
GTeener   Years back I did a 914-6 with 2.2 MFI 'E...   Jun 2 2010, 02:55 PM
SLITS   Years back I did a 914-6 with 2.2 MFI 'E...   Jun 2 2010, 04:24 PM
ArtechnikA   There is a solenoid on top of the fuel filter con...   Jun 2 2010, 05:57 PM
Root_Werks   Years back I did a 914-6 with 2.2 MFI 'E...   Jun 3 2010, 08:51 AM
ArtechnikA   My 2.2E had the little air cleaner squirters, but...   Jun 3 2010, 09:04 AM
Root_Werks   That's really good info guys thanks, kinda off...   Jun 3 2010, 09:53 AM
SLITS   That's really good info guys thanks, kinda of...   Jun 3 2010, 10:32 AM
GTeener   FWIW- Tom Amon also is of the opinion that he no l...   Jun 4 2010, 12:12 PM
GTeener   Supposedly my engine is back from the machine shop...   Jul 1 2010, 02:54 PM
RobW   Supposedly my engine is back from the machine sho...   Jul 1 2010, 03:25 PM
jt914-6   :popcorn:   Jul 1 2010, 02:57 PM
GTeener   Please someone :poke: buy the white 914 that came ...   Jul 1 2010, 05:20 PM
GTeener   :idea: not too exciting looking. Much cleaner ...   Jul 1 2010, 08:07 PM
ArtechnikA   Take good notes. I think you'll be back in the...   Jul 2 2010, 06:25 AM
GTeener   Take good notes. I think you'll be back in th...   Jul 2 2010, 01:35 PM
koozy   Take good notes. I think you'll be back in t...   Jul 2 2010, 02:33 PM
ArtechnikA   Take good notes. I think you'll be back in t...   Jul 2 2010, 02:52 PM
RobW   [quote name='GTeener' post='1338317' date='Jul 2 ...   Jul 6 2010, 11:36 AM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:03 PM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:05 PM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:06 PM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:23 PM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:26 PM
GTeener   :type:   Jul 2 2010, 01:27 PM
GTeener   This piece looks chipped. Will it cause a problem...   Jul 2 2010, 01:34 PM
RobW   :woohoo: :drooley:   Jul 2 2010, 01:54 PM
J P Stein   I agree with Rich. It is certainally worth the add...   Jul 3 2010, 08:16 AM
koozy   You bet. It would be imperative to get everything ...   Jul 3 2010, 09:38 AM
GTeener   I will verify the ultrasonic cleaning.   Jul 6 2010, 11:12 AM
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