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> The Legend of the "914 S" & "914 SC", Myth or Fact?
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post Jun 3 2010, 09:06 PM
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For the ADHD crowd & reading challenged & the just impatient....

The `73 MY's "914S" is a "Trim Designation" or "Trim Package" - the same as was the "914 LE" in the `74 MY.

It was official by Porsche & Porsche+Audi/Volkswagen of America for North America, & likewise for th Porsche distributors of the "914S/914SL" in Japan & "914SC" in the UK.

However, in the case of North America, Porsche Germany made Porsche+Audi/VoA drop the "914S" designation after running the program for over a year - from early -1972 in the pre-release campaign - through about March 1973 - apparently after pressure from the 911 crowd at PCA objecting to it confusing them over their911S's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Period!

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See my Post #205 on page 11 for more details - or just read on below & through the ensuing facts, then debate by the naysayers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


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CLIFF NOTES VERSION: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
- for those not interested in looking at cool old 914 stuff from back in the day"!

1. Porsche+Audi marketed the 914/4 2.0 "fully loaded" as the "914 S" in ads & sales brochures from Summer 1972 to about Jan/Feb 1973, then Porsche made them stop.

2. The British Distributor similarly marketed the 914/4 2.0 from Summer 1972 through 1976 as the 914SC, but was never told to stop.

3. Neither was ever badged as either a 914S or 914SC.

4. If one is interested, read the stuff posted here from that 1970's period.
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There has been talk from time to time on here & elsewhere, about whether there ever really was a "914 S" &/or "914 SC"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
- especially amongst those of us with USA 1973 MY 914-2.0's from the first half of the 73 MY production!

Well - as many things 914 - the answer is an unequivocal "Yes & No"!

I can answer more definitively regarding the "914 S" in the USA & Canada/North America, since I researched that recently to better plan for the restoration of my early-73 914-2.0. However, I was already well aware of the "914 S" terminology back in 1975 & it's having been dropped unceremoniously at PAG's insistance during early 1973, because I'd reviewed MT & R&T road test articles on the "914 S"/914-2.0 which bracketed the change & made mention of PAG's forcing it to be dropped while researching the purchase used (3 yrs. old) of my one & only 914-2.0 which I bought in Dec. 75 & still own (2nd owner).

I also had 3+ years before that, gotten a "free" copy of the 12 page early 1973 MY 914 sales brochure from the Downtown LA Porsche+Audi dealership, from a classmate whose parents eventually bought him one for his graduation (oh to be so lucky! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ). In it, it referred to the "914 S", as shown in the pix on the following posts here of the similar current brochure which I had to buy last year, having misplaced the other! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

But we will have to ask that some of our Brit Teeners out there (both of you! - just kidding! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) to add in regarding your "914 SC".
- Yes, the Brits had "something completely different," as in the Monty Python bits!

First - "No" - 914's were never officially badged as either a "914 S" nor "914 SC" by either the Porsche+Audi US/Canada nor the British Isles distributors, and definitely NOT EVER by the factory.

North American 914s with the GA 2.0 motor were badged with the familiar separate "914" & "2.0" badges on the right rear body panel above the rear bumper & to the left of the right taillight.

Whereas the rest of the world's 2L's with the GB engine were badged with the familiar long "914-*-Porsche" between the rear trunk lock/button & right taillight (where "*" is the VW roundel Logo), with the 2.0" badge below that & aligned with the first long badge next to the right taillight.

USA/Canada - Porsche+Audi 914 2.0 Badging:
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Rest of the World's 914 2.0 Badging:
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For many, this above is enough to know & take/keep the position on "no" - but it is NOT the whole story, much of which is not known today unless you were around then. If you're in the no camp, your point is taken & no need to torture yourself by reading on - unless you want to add some other documentation/pix from the period which relate to this subject - then please do so.

However, this post isn't here for a debate - although it seems that we have a lot of "master debaters" logging in here with a burning desire to prove someone - anyone - wrong. Even to the point of agreeing with me then saying I'm wrong, and one re-posting information which I'd already posted in an effort to prove me wrong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

I'm just presenting some factual documentation here on what the "914S" thing was all about - so others will know that there is some basis to it, even if it was not a "real" 914 model nor badge name. I have also thrown in some of my own thoughts, speculation & opinions, which I hope are clear from the way I've stated things (IMO, IMHO, I speculate or suspect or estimate that ... , etc.) that they are just that - which is not to claim that they are "facts".

As you can tell by my edits here, I'm getting a bit frustrated with the "master debaters," conspiracy police, & those who consider "914S talk" as heresy - but it did exist - to a point, as the following explains & provides period documentation to back it up. To the point - it is an indisputable fact that Porsche+Audi in the USA & Canada marketed the then new 914/4 2.0L model as the "914S" from Summer 1972 through about December 1972 or January/February 1973 -period! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Today, one of our member vendors here - RJMII - makes custom aluminum badges in a "914 S" design, and could customize anything else - including "914 SC" - should someone want one for display purposes or fun in a temporary attachment/placement. However, IMHO I would not recommend placing one in the rear badging position, because you'd have to weld/braise/putty to fill in the mounting stud holes, which is NOT a good idea nor an acceptable "Originality" approach.

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Second - "Yes" - The Porsche+Audi US/Canada distributor did in fact initially market the "new for the 1973 model year" (MY) 914/4 with the GA 2.0 engine as the "914 S" from mid-72 through early 1973.

While the British Isles distributor marketed their GB engined 2.0's as the "914 SC" from mid-72 through the end of the 914's run in 1976.

Oddly - according to both the period articles in the left book below & commentary by the second book's author - Porsche never asked them to drop the "SC" nomenclature - even after the "911 SC" was introduced later. Whereas their almost immediate objection to the US Porsche+Audi arm using the "914 S" in marketing, what that they were concerned that it may confuse the public with the 911S & detract for that far more expensive car's sales (more than 2x the 914-2.0' price in 73 MY).

A fair amount of factual back up for both of these "914 S" & "914 SC" marketing programs can be found in the 2 books whose covers are pictured below - both of which are still currently available in print from numerous sources - so I won't duplicate that information here.

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Additionally, Porsche+Audi printed both 4 page & 12 page 914 full color sales brochures for the US & Canadian dealerships, both of which clearly & unequivocally referred to the "914 S" - not a "914 2.0" at that point in time (although the terminology was eventually changed to "914 2.0" by the 74 MY as seen later).

Front & Rear Covers of 4 page Porsche+Audi 914 Sales Brochure referring to "914 S":
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Inner Pages 2 & 3 of 4 page Porsche+Audi 914 Sales Brochure referring to "914 S":
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Front Cover & following pages in order of 12 page Porsche+Audi 914 Sales Brochure referring to "914 S":

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... continued ... Front Cover & following pages in order of 12 page Porsche+Audi 914 Sales Brochure referring to "914 S":
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Jun 3 2010, 08:16 PM) *

Explain this.....

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Sorry - NARB on a NARP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It's a made-up badge - my guess being the "-S" from a 911-S badge is attached/welded to a "914" (as I was going to try myself just for fun) - given the wide spacing & out-of-alignment from the 914 to the S on it.

Anyone can make anything up like that, but RJMII's at least look like they're correctly made badges! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
http://www.vintagetransrebuilds.com/transr...14s-emblem.aspx

... he also makes metal NARP badges too, but that doesn't mean that they were ever badged that way from the dealers or factory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Back to the documentation, after that sidetrack ...

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... continued ... Back Cover of 12 page Porsche+Audi 914 Sales Brochure referring to "914 S":
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Then - amongst the familiar "The __[blank]__ Porsche" series of print ads, there were the early 1973 MY ads during the second half of 1972 which touted the "914 S" as "The Super Porsche" was in the first one below (in both color & B&W). This was later changed to tout the "914 2.0" by the 1974 MY ads in the second ad, but oddly it was just reformatted with the text from bottom to top & still used of what appears to be the very same 1973 MY 914 photo - note the 70-73 MY positive side stripes, rather than the 74-76 MY negative side stripes as in the 3rd pic (from the 74 MY brochures).

Pix of Print Ads for 914S, 914-2.0 & 74 MY 914 with Negative Side Stripes:
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Whereas, later 73 MY Print ads only referred to the 2.0L engine - rather than either the earlier "914 S" or later "914 2.0" nomenclature, as in "The Action Porsche" & "The City Porsche" print ads below.

"The Action Porsche" & "The City Porsche" print ads with reference only to 2.0L engine:
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So the use of the "914 S" nomenclature was pretty prevalent from the introduction of the 1973 models - including the "new" 2 Liter 4 cylinder model meant to replace the now discontinued 914-6. Most Teeners know that the 2L 4 turned out more power than the 1.7L denoting the "Super" for the "S" - 95 hp with the GA motor - which is sometimes listed as 91 hp - depending upon whether DIN or SAE numbers were used (vs. 100 hp from the higher compression "non-California-smog/unleaded gas" Euro/World GB motor - which had 8.0:1 vs. 7.6:1 in the GA).

But what made it "Special" as well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
... Well, for the initial 73 MY only the 2 Liter model by either name came "loaded" with the Appearance Group's & Performance Group's list of options at no additional charge - usually listed as "N/C" on the window stickers - ostensibly to help offset the perceived loss of value of dropping the 914-6 from the line-up, with the 914S/914-2.0 at essentially the same price as the 71 914-6.

These "included options" or "upgrades" included:

> Appearance Group Optional Equipment (comparable to Euro "Comfort Group") -
..... Chrome Front & Rear Bumpers
..... Fog/Driving Lights with Chrome (plastic) Grills in the Front Bumper
..... Black Vinyl Leatherette Covering with Chrome Trim (polished anodized aluminum in fact) at the rollbar/sail panels
..... Black Vinyl Leatherette Covered Center Console with 3 Gauges - Clock ("Kienzle" type), Oil Temperature Gauge ("wide red band" type), & voltmeter (same type 73-76)
......... ~ see here for gauge & other MY fitment info.: http://www.p914.com/p914_gauges_console.htm
..... Leather covered steering wheel (later 74-76 MY's switched to Vinyl Leatherette)
..... Leather Shifter Boot
..... Loop Pile Carpet (sometimes called "Velour" in the ads, etc.)

> Performance Group Optional Equipment (comparable to Euro "Sport Group") -
..... Front & Rear Anti-sway Stabilization Bars ("Sway Bars" for short - 16 mm front & 15 mm rear)
..... 5.5J x 15 Lightweight Forged Alloy Wheels - now commonly referred to as "Fuchs 2 Liter Alloys"* - with ...
..... 165HR15 Sport or Performance Tires, ofter Dunlop SP57 tires, as well as other tires from Michelin, Continental & Semperit
.......... (the 1.7's had 165SR15 size on "standard" 5.5J x 15 steel wheels - both usually are considered /80 ~ 165/80R15 in HR or SR)

* Note that most 914-2.0's from the "914 S" era were subject to the "BO Recall Campaign" released in Dec. 1972, which required that the dealers check that the Alloy Wheels were in fact of the part number ending in -01 with the machined inset around the center hole to receive the "new for 73 MY" self-centering lip around the front wheel "hub-centric hubs" - as opposed to some early -00 part nos. produced with a flat backed hub seat to fit earlier 914s as either an option or flat-out mistake by PAG &/or Fuchs.

More information on this recall - as well as the HO Recall for the battery & engine bay fuel lines applicable to all 914's - can be found at the link below of all recalls for the 914 series (the blue links in the chart link to pix of the actual factory & VWoA letters & instructions to the dealers, which Jeff Bowlsby has been kind enough to collect for us all, along with the rest of the excellent 914 info. there). PCNA is still obligated to perform any NHTSA required safety recalls - even at this late date - so long as it has never been performed on a particular car, so call the PCNA Customer Care 800# with your VIN & inquire.

http://www.bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm

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Black & White Ad as above for the "914 S", with a detail of the text showing the "Extra Equipment" included in the 73 MY 2L's base price:
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More legible detail pix from Hi-Rez pix of my 12 page Early-73 914 Sales Brochure, with the "included" Optional Equipment on the 914S:
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So when did the "914 S" terminology get dropped? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
... I'd estimate that "word came down from on high" at Porsche/PAG to their USA marketing arm of Porsche+Audi sometime around December 1972 or January 1973, judging from the consecutive months' Jan.`73 "Motor Trend" and Feb. `73 "Road & Track" Road Test articles covering the "new for 73 MY" 914 with the new 2.0L Flat 4 Engine by either name - and assuming that the actual tests and article writing occurred in the month prior to the official dates on these magazines, as well as the publication/release date typically being late in the month before the date on any magazine.

Article text excerpts on the change from "914S" between the Jan. 73 MT on the 914S & Feb. 73 R&T on the "914/2":
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So from this, I suppose we could refer to all 1973 MY 914's with the factory 2.0L GA engine as the "914 S" - so long as they were originally sold here in the USA during "The Super Porsche - 914S" marketing campaign between the opening of the 73 MY sales around August 72 through at least December 72, and possibly as late as Feb. 73 - and possibly Canada as well, assuming that Porsche+Audi used the same marketing campaign there, which I believe they did.

However, I'm sure other owners of the 914-2.0 model may want to call theirs a 914S too - so whatever one chooses - at least you now know the story behind the mythical or legendary - or both - "914 S"!

So how about some others adding info on the Brit's "914 SC" now?
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Jun 3 2010, 11:16 PM) *

Explain this.....

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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Jun 4 2010, 07:34 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ Jun 3 2010, 11:16 PM) *

Explain this.....

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.................Is that emblem one piece, and factory made, or did you make it yourself?........
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I purchased my 914-S about two years ago.....This was a california dealer sold car, I am the third owner.(89101 original miles).a no rust survivor,previous owners took care of this car...previous owners all claimed that it was purchased as a 914-S....I made a list of options on the car as follows...1).leather boot around shifter,2)adjustable passenger seat,3)drivers side mirror,4)leather covered steering wheel,5) ugraded radio,6) fuchs (and mahle wheels)..7).front and rear sway bars...8),2.o engine,9)center console, guages, and storage compartment(under tray).10).arm rests with storage,11) tinted windows,12)fog lights,13)aluminum door sills,14)loop pile carpet,15)..chrome bumpers,16 dealer installed rubberised undercoating.....I wonder how many more options i should look for ...other than a rear window defroster this car has all options I know about.....so far....I look forward to hearing from other 914-S owners and specifics of their car.
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Jun 4 2010, 05:44 AM) *

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Jun 4 2010, 07:34 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ Jun 3 2010, 11:16 PM) *

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Not mine. I just found the picture.
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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Jun 4 2010, 07:34 AM) *

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That may be it Murry - since it has the "dash" in there & an odd offset to the connecting bar at the upper-left loop of the "S" - as seen in the enhanced view of it below - vs. - RMJII's design without the dash in the pic below that, which is closer to the way they printed it as "914S" or more ofter as "914 S" on the ads & brochures which I'd posted above.

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I'm considering eventually getting a set of the dual logo Lloyd plush floor mats in dark tan/saddle color for daily use, with "PORSCHE" in black or dark gray, over the red or maroon "914-S" - by having the "6" in 914-6 embroidery modified to read "914 S". I'll also get one of RMJII's "914 S" badges & set it up to temporarily hook it over somewhere on the interior or exterior for fun - all just rock the boat & please me, being the kurr dawg I am! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

However - all you CW's settle down, cuz I'd pull those out & use Coco mats in tan dot on black for CdE events, like Steve G. has in his Sahara Beige 73 914-2.0 in the O&H "The few, the rare...." nailed topic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Where are the Brits!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Jun 4 2010, 06:15 AM) *

I purchased my 914-S about two years ago.....This was a california dealer sold car, I am the third owner.(89101 original miles).a no rust survivor,previous owners took care of this car...previous owners all claimed that it was purchased as a 914-S....I made a list of options on the car as follows...1).leather boot around shifter,2)adjustable passenger seat,3)drivers side mirror,4)leather covered steering wheel,5) ugraded radio,6) fuchs (and mahle wheels)..7).front and rear sway bars...8),2.o engine,9)center console, guages, and storage compartment(under tray).10).arm rests with storage,11) tinted windows,12)fog lights,13)aluminum door sills,14)loop pile carpet,15)..chrome bumpers,16 dealer installed rubberised undercoating.....I wonder how many more options i should look for ...other than a rear window defroster this car has all options I know about.....so far....I look forward to hearing from other 914-S owners and specifics of their car.



Hey Murry Thanx! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Were these from your 914's window sticker, dealer sales invoice/bill of sale, COA or ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Just to clarify for others reading this on the options on yours that you mentioned above, this is what I've found regarding them in my research on options, although often they'd list certain "features" as "N/C" on the window stickers along with true "options" -

1).leather boot around shifter, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
2)adjustable passenger seat, <Std. on all 914s 72-76 MY>
3)drivers side mirror, <Std. on all 914s 70-76 MY, Passenger side mirror was an available Option & maybe Std. in some Euro Country(s)>
4)leather covered steering wheel, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
5) upgraded radio, <Available Dealer Option for various radios @ all years & models, although factory did offer a "radio ready option" of antenna & speakers>
6) fuchs (and mahle wheels), <Perf. Grp. & Std. on 914S - the Mahles were "extra goodies" that you got with your 914 IIRC>
7).front and rear sway bars, <Perf. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
8),2.o engine, <Baseline for "914 S"/"914 2.0" model, but never an upgradable option on a 1.7 or 1.8 914 - it was either 1.7/1.8 or 2.0 model & engine>
9)center console, guages, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
10? ... and storage compartment(under tray).10).arm rests with storage, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S - I think you meant these 2 together with storage tray being under the flip-up hinged center cushion?>
11) tinted windows, <Available Option @ all years & models, as either tinted windshield or "Tinted Glass All Around" - which was both the windshield & side windows (wings & roll-ups) all tinted - always with safety glass in USA & never were the rear windows tinted, since they were shaded by the rollbar & sails anyway>
12)fog lights, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
13)aluminum door sills, <Std. on all 914s 70-73 MY, later switched to black plastic ones for late-73 & 74-76 MYs>
14)loop pile carpet, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
15)..chrome bumpers, <App. Grp. & Std. on 914S>
16 dealer installed rubberised undercoating <Available Option @ all years & models from factory or by dealers - mine also has dealer undercoating>

Another option which should be found on most or all USA 914s, is the "USA Equipment" on the COA &/or window sticker/Dealer B.O.S. - which included the US-DOT approved/required items, such as:
> laminated safety glass windshield (clear or tinted),
> 3-point safety belts appropriate to the MY (retractable starting in 72 or 73 MY)
> smog equipment & engine(s) as appropriate to the specific MY,
.... (IIRC - 69-72 basic smog controls, 73 decreased CO limits & added unleaded gas only 73-76, 74-76 further decreased CO limits, 75-76 added catalytic converter & air pump - each step reducing the hp output of the respective MY's engines)
> impact resistant bumpers appropriate to the MYs
.... (73 = Front 3 mph Bumper Guards ["Tits"], 74 = F & R "Tits", 75-76 = 5 mph "big bumpers" - & 75-76 with extra smaller "tits" required in CA for sure & MD too IIRC),
> Side-impact beams in doors starting after early production 73 MY

However, for ease of production & distribution/redirection, many of these ended up on all 914's worldwide, such as the "big bumpers", 3-point seat belts & side impact beams in the doors.

Additionally, all California 914s should also indicate on the window sticker &/or Dealer BOS/Invoice - a $15+/- "[California] Smog Test Fee", & in some MY's & on some engines/models there were 49 state & CA versions, but the 2.0's were all 50 state versions for the respective MY.

If your 914's window sticker lacks this fee but is touted as a CA car - then it's highly likely that it was NOT originally sold by a CA dealership when new, and a later smog test should show on the earliest CA DMV registration as an "imported" out-of-state vehicle (unless brought in after the smog exemption for pre-75 MY vehicles in the mid-1990's). Unfortunately, PAG's/PCNA's "Kardex" records don't indicate this, so a COA won't indicate it at all.

However, a continuous CA DMV registration chain from the date first sold/registered in CA consistent with the car's specific MY as shown on the DMV Reg. card (&/or by doing a DMV registration information request for a fee) may be another way to confirm a CA 914. Likewise, a continuous chain of service/maintenance records in CA could reasonably document a CA 914. {I had to use both types to document for PCNA that their records were in error by showing that my 73 MY 914-2.0 was supposedly first sold in Connecticut in 9/73 - more than a year after it was built in 8/72 according to my VIN sticker & chassis no. (which was not at all likely, as "hot selling" as they were then), when in fact my personal first CA DMV registration card from when I first bought it used/3 yrs. old on 12/26/75 shows that it was first sold in CA on 11/9/72!}

That's not to say that a particular 914 didn't "live" some or most of its life in CA - just that it probably was not one of the +/- 40% of all 914's which were originally sold new by Porsche+Audi dealerships located in CA.

Conversely, it's possible that some 914's so tested for CA smog compliance, were later diverted for sale in other states, or purchased here in CA & then relocated out of state later - or even immediately, esp. with the shortages of 2.0's in certain points of the production where "out-of-staters" would come here, buy a 914 & immediately drive/transport it to their own home state; & dealers could also work swaps between themselves - even interstate - as they still do today (as we did in-state for our 88 Westy to get what we equipment wanted in Dove Blue).


FYI All -
Various factory options & their factory code numbers are listed here by Jeff Bowlsby, with which you may have to "help out" the PCNA folks doing your COA, since they often misinterpret the old codes with newer ones - such as Pat Garvey's 72 914's "Norwegian Equipment", or their misreading the "#31 Beige" interior color on my 73 914S/914-2.0 as black!

Remember that at PCNA & PAG - they're human, numbers & codes have been changed by Porsche over the years, and their records are old, incomplete & sometimes in error - so sometimes their "Certificates of Authenticity" (COAs) are not all that "authentic" with regard to all of their information thereon, and you have to take time to work with them to get things corrected. Here are some sources to do so -

Options -
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/OpEq.htm

Accessories -
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/914Accessories.htm

Overall 914 Info which Jeff Bowlsby has collected (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/

... as well as here -
http://www.p914.com/

This info & that here at 914 Info tab above & at p914.com are some great resources for whatever you need to research on your own 914!
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If you want my opinion....well, you'll get it anyway.

The "S" was a Noth American MARKETING perpsective of Porsche/Audi (remember them?). Not condoned by the Factory, and eventually poo-poo'd.

Remember, only the basic format for sales brochures was provided by the Factory. The "fine points" were left to the importers, of which Porsche/Audi NA was one.

It was a marketing ploy guys. That's it!
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ps: no doubt this will piss some people of, but I was there at the time. Ask me about the first 2.0 sitting in the lot in July '72, when I took delivery of my '72. Could have had the Fuchs from it fo $150.
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........PAT, ...I disagree with your perspective on the matter......The advertising, and Information ...TOM...has collected are Porsche co. produced.....and what about the european 914SC? advertising at the same time...a little too coencidental don't you think?......I believe PORSCHE ,MAY have changed their minds, reguarding marketing..and production.....and producing a fully optioned car, for which the individual options had a higher value...than producing one with them already installed such as the 914-S....Only until the can-am cars were produced, did ALL of the similar options,( as included with the 914-S, ) Appear-reappear as it were ,(excepting the paint job).....as a complete factory optioned 914...all other 914,s, were a roll your own options, if you wanted to pay for them ....It,s very hard to find other 914,s , in other years that have similar or equal options as the 914-S...or ...can-am cars.
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