 Please take a look at my long crack, am I hosed? |
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| Gudhjem |
 Jul 17 2010, 05:39 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Castro Valley, CA Member No.: 7,629 Region Association: Northern California  |
Below are a couple pics of the spider cracks I just discovered in my driver's side long. I gather the strategy is to drill at the ends of the cracks and then weld the new hole and the rest of the crack. But mine seems to be worse than the ones I've seen posted here.
Think mine is fixable? Should I weld on a small plate over the fix to add some rigidity? Wasn't planning on a reinfocing kit, since this car is 99% for street, but maybe that's a sesible move anyway? Attached image(s)  
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| scotty b |
Jul 17 2010, 05:57 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Drilling cracks is only usefull if you do NOT weld the crack back up. The holes simply redistributes the cracks stress to the hole, thus preventing the crack from spreading.You need to
a: cut the section out and replace it or b: clean what you have and weld the cracks back together. I personally would opt for a: that way you can see insdie and make certain there is ont another issue that needs to be addressed |
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| Ericv1 |
Jul 17 2010, 06:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 30-December 07 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 8,518 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Once you open that up, the damage will be a lot deeper than just the cracks. But, it all can be repaired.
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| Andyrew |
Jul 17 2010, 06:38 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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If it were me, I would weld the crack and get a reinforcement kit.. However I would also go under and look at the long from the outside to make sure there is no rust going on..
I think long reinforcements are needed on all our cars... |
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| ejm |
Jul 17 2010, 07:14 PM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
I've welded a few of them. It's a stress crack that forms due to the way the metal was stamped in that area. For a street car just weld it up.
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| McMark |
Jul 17 2010, 07:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Almost every car I see has some amount of cracking there. Clean all the paint off the metal there with a wire wheel and/or sandpaper, flatten the metal as much as possible, the weld it up with a nice strong bead.
The cracking does not indicate further rust or accident damage. They all crack there eventually. |
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| KELTY360 |
Jul 17 2010, 07:26 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I'm just really glad it wasn't Z who wrote the title of this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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| charliew |
Jul 18 2010, 01:17 PM
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I agree that the long is narrower there and it makes that spot the weakest and the flexing is done more in that spot. Actually making that side as wide as the rest would be the best repair if the stiffeners aren't used. Move the emergency brake to the center. I think welding the cracks up only heats the metal up and it is more brittle and it will encourage it to crack right beside the welds at a later date.
I wonder if the weight of the driver might have had something to do with why some cars are worse than others. |
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| corsepervita |
Jul 18 2010, 02:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 327 Joined: 18-April 10 From: Redmond, OR Member No.: 11,631 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
For the record, I hope your wife knows you are asking people to look at your crack!
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| Gudhjem |
Jul 19 2010, 10:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Castro Valley, CA Member No.: 7,629 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the replies. I'll weld it up.
Do I need to be concerned about burning the heater tube inside the long or warping anything? I'm hoping to avoid both by welding in small spurts and letting things cool, but it would be a drag if I lost drivers side heat by destroying that tube. |
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| sean_v8_914 |
Jul 19 2010, 11:37 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
nah, wont burn. common repair. not a big deal
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| McMark |
Jul 19 2010, 12:06 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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