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| ChrisFoley |
 Jul 29 2010, 03:32 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing  Group: Members Posts: 7,937 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(william1764 @ Jul 29 2010, 04:24 PM)  Hey - thats not nice chris (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Just kidding...i'm not sold on them myself either. A lot of west coast guys have them and say good things about them but I had never seen one until a few weeks ago. The car didn't have a rear valence so the Triad was pretty obvious even with the car on the ground. The first thing I noticed was the "unusual" shape. With the car on the lift I looked at the overall design and the collectors. Its generally considered bad for tuning to join the left side pipes and the right side pipes due to the exhaust pulse timing, but there it was - the Triad has a collector off each trapezoid flange. Then I listened to it as it was taken out for a test drive by Ed. Its certainly not quiet. Not as loud as the modified stock muffler with dual tips, but I wasn't impressed by the overall sound either. I didn't drive the car so I don't have any idea how it sounds from inside the car. Obviously I'm a little biased, and I also tend to be a bit fussy about details, but I tried to view it with an open mind based on all the positive feedback I've read here. Now you know my opinion, for what its worth. |
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| avidfanjpl |
Jul 29 2010, 03:46 PM
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914 Hemophiliac Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So, Chris, what would you buy if you had my trouble with the Dansk sounding like a paint can with a rock inside it?
I am totally open to anything that sounds good. I don't drive in the rain, and from now on, I will remember to bring the car and exhaust up to temp whenever I start it. I cannot be positive, but I think I have a loose baffle inside the Dansk. It just showed up about 5 hours ago of driving ago, and it is intermittent. 73 2.0L Stock Banana from Dansk - 4 years old. 6,000 miles on it. Never sounded completely free from noise. Worse lately. Thanks! John |
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| ChrisFoley |
Jul 29 2010, 03:55 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,937 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Philip W. @ Jul 29 2010, 03:50 PM) how do yours compare in the spectrum of all of these others?- i know yours seem to test out great on hp etc. how do they compare sound-wise? - on a scale of 1-10 10 being loudest, stock being a 4, where does yours, triad etc sit? pw Hard to quantify it with a simple linear scale. There are significant differences in tone as well as loudness, and the loudness varies depending on throttle position and rpm. Whether you're inside the car or watching it go by makes a big difference, and if you have carbs vs stock FI also affects what you hear - from inside the car especially. I think my street mufflers are only slightly louder than stock, but hardly anyone has a stock muffler anymore for comparison. Everything else is louder, with the dual tip modified stock unit being only a little quieter than my Stage 1 race muffler. The only muffler I've heard that I thought was quiet is a Bursch on '75 HE's. Probably the best way to judge loudness is to try carrying on a conversation with a passenger. With my exhausts its pretty easy to converse in a normal tone of voice while driving. |
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| ChrisFoley |
Jul 29 2010, 04:00 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,937 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(avidfanjpl @ Jul 29 2010, 05:46 PM) So, Chris, what would you buy if you had my trouble with the Dansk sounding like a paint can with a rock inside it? I'd go for the Tangerine EVO complete exhaust system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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| jgara962 |
Jul 29 2010, 04:08 PM
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Yo, this is how I roll Group: Members Posts: 823 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Napa, CA Member No.: 3,879 Region Association: Northern California |
Chris built me a custom dual tip GT style exhaust for my headers and it looks and sounds great. Amazing workmanship.
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| avidfanjpl |
Jul 29 2010, 04:15 PM
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914 Hemophiliac Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks, Chris!
I have only been to your site once, and never even knew there were exhaust products. I will have to look, but I do want to retain the SSHE's that I have. That may change what I have to buy. This car is purely stock, but putting the Dansk in storage and having something a bit more reliable and even louder is not a sin. The annoyance factor for the Dansk making noise is HIGH! Thanks! John |
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| DanT |
Jul 29 2010, 05:27 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Chris, on the twin pipe conversion of a stock muffler, it depends if the muffler is left completely stock other than the twin pipe of if some of the internal baffling has been modified.
I have one of each....the completely stock with just twin pipe is not all that loud, but the one with the baffles modified along with the twin pipe is very loud (race car loud (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) I am currently running the muffler that is stock internals with twin pipe and it is very decent over all sound wise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have had two cars with Bursch mufflers, and they were just about as loud, just a different tone. I did mine because I like the look of the twin pipe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| oldschool |
Jul 29 2010, 05:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Scott Schroeder @ Jul 29 2010, 08:46 AM) Here is the one I built for the 2.0. I opened up a 1.7L can, plugged up the stock tail pipe and welded on two new tail pipes made from race megaphones. Car ran great. was loud, but I liked it. scott I dig the flares.... do it yourself? |
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| Lavanaut |
Jul 29 2010, 09:31 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
When I had my 4-banger, probably my favorite upgrade was my Triad. Threw some stainless tips on there. The build quality is very impressive. Sound was deeper, and just better, than stock. So too was accelaration - noticeable, no doubt about it. Price was totally reasonable in my mind as well.
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