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| charliew |
Jul 31 2010, 01:55 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
I would think the u shaped piece could be a piece long enough for both sides and the bodyman could put the curve in it himself. Most sheetmetal shops could make that I think pretty easily. Mine has some surface rust above the headlight buckets in the channel but no rust through. I can see how though in rainey climates that would stay damp and rust through would be common. Someone said that they would reccommend to not glue the rubber in the channel so it could be removed and dried or cleaned out. I will probably cold galvanize paint it and then put the epoxy primer over that to try and protect it I think.
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| Katmanken |
Jul 31 2010, 04:54 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Charlie,
The bitch with the fender "U" channel is creating the downward curve. Bending a "U" downward is hard to do. The upper sides of the "U" need to stretch as the part bends downward, and rather than stretch, the sides pull in. Need tooling to do it right. That downward bending operation is way more than I want to do with the tools on hand. |
| scotty b |
Jul 31 2010, 06:40 PM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Replacement panels that weld themselves - No offence Scotty... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) You'll get that when we get houses that sell themselves (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Front trunk front wall behind bumper ( That Rick showed ) STEEL rockers Front valance Rear valance Front trunk seal channel is pretty easily made, but I could certainly see a large sale of it pre-made (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
| peteyd |
Aug 2 2010, 06:15 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
Thank you all for the input. There are plenty of pieces that could and should be made. For now the piece that will be priority is most likely the front trunk. All the other areas will definately be on the "to do list"
I am just finishing up some other dies, including the pedal support bracket welded on the underside of the floor pans. I will let the world know when new items are available. Pete |
| MrKona |
Aug 2 2010, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 4,469 Region Association: None |
One more vote for the 1970-74 front panel..
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| 1968Cayman |
Aug 2 2010, 09:17 PM
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Redacted by Irving Washington ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-February 10 From: Holly Springs, GA Member No.: 11,332 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for reminding me I haven't fixed the front trunk, ya #$&%!! Just when I thought I was getting dangerously close to finishing the welding on the car, too . . .
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| charliew |
Aug 10 2010, 04:54 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
I don't need the u channel but if I did I would probably buy a piece of thinwall square tubing and bend it then cut the top side off with my bandsaw and sand it to final size. It looks like 3/4 tubing is about the right size, no?
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| avidfanjpl |
Sep 1 2010, 11:06 AM
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914 Hemophiliac ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Scotty
I just bought left/right steel rockers from RD. They ain't plastic and they ain't tin. Getting them treated and coated this coming week. John |
| Root_Werks |
Sep 1 2010, 11:55 AM
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,996 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 15NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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My vote is for an entire assembled 914 shell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Actually, I voted front trunk. I could have used one about 2 months ago. So many hack the $h!t out of trunk floors for AC or Oil coolers or radiators etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) PITA to source a trunk floor, then patch it in. |
| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 1 2010, 01:39 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,239 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Looks like this guy is already selling the pedal cluster reinforcements on e bay!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...16#ht_729wt_941 Thank you all for the input. There are plenty of pieces that could and should be made. For now the piece that will be priority is most likely the front trunk. All the other areas will definately be on the "to do list" I am just finishing up some other dies, including the pedal support bracket welded on the underside of the floor pans. I will let the world know when new items are available. Pete |
| ripper911 |
Sep 1 2010, 03:13 PM
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corde pulsum tangite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
Looks like this guy is already selling the pedal cluster reinforcements on e bay!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...16#ht_729wt_941 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
| NC_Colfax |
Sep 2 2010, 06:47 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 26-July 10 From: North Carolina Member No.: 11,982 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Of those 3, IMHO the front trunk floor is the most often needed, esp. for AC removal retrofits. Here are a couple of other ideas for more needed parts & the reasons why needed - 1. 70-74 Front Wall body Panel (behind bumper) - often damaged in F-end accidents & rust at bumper/foglight/horn attachments > the front wall brace(s) inside the trunk would be nice too, either separately or pre-welded to the F-wall. 2. L & R Headlight Buckets & drain tube (70-74 w/ knock-outs for 75-76) - rust damage 3. Replacement F Trunk Seal channels (curved & straight & angels0 - often rusted by trunk seal holding moisture & rusting thru 4. 70-74 Rear Wall body Panel (behind bumper & betw taillights) - often damaged in R-end accidents & rust for leaky taillight seals 5. Underbody pan sections at L & R Front Suspension Cross-member Struts/Braces Attachments (R most common) - rust due to water & windshield washer fluid leakage into bottom of fuel tank compartment, & critical suspension area stress 6. Steering Rack Cover Panels - rust & road debris damage 7. 72-76 Full Engine/Cockpit Firewall Panel with F Engine Shelf & Heat/Sound Pad & Wiring Harness Clips - heat/sound pads hold moisture against firewall/shelf & cause rust damage on later 914s (70-71 had no pads IIRC). 8. Full Hell Hole Replacement Kit &/or Pre-Assy. (Long, Inneer Wheel House, Susp. Console, Motor Mount, Engine Shelf, Battery Tray/Support, etc.) - RUST! 9. Engine Tin Sets - rust damage, road hazard losws, lazy mechanics & DAPO's not putting them back on, etc. I'm sure others can add some to their wish list! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I say above mostly 70-74 models - not as a slam against 75-76 914s - but because there were far more 914s built & therefore surviving in the first 4 years of production, plus I have a 73 & am most familiar with issues that MY & similar MYs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Both of my project cars suffer the rust that Tom mentions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) +2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) + whatever I have some fiberglass work in mine |
| John |
Sep 2 2010, 10:50 PM
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member? what's a member? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I would vote for the inner and outer rear suspension console parts. The outers first, and followed up with the inner parts......
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| nathansnathan |
Sep 23 2010, 09:08 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
I wish you could get a piece for the 'inner inner' passenger long, a foot or 2 of where it's flat under the door and then a foot or so up the slant toward the battery. I'm talking about the sort of 'corrugated' piece that you can't see because it is inside.
I voted for the rear of the front fender, as the way it is double walled mkes that pretty tricky. Also, I'd love to get new metal shaped for just the ends of the cowl, both sides. Forming that's gonna be tricky, too. |
| scotty b |
Sep 23 2010, 05:47 PM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I wish you could get a piece for the 'inner inner' passenger long, a foot or 2 of where it's flat under the door and then a foot or so up the slant toward the battery. I'm talking about the sort of 'corrugated' piece that you can't see because it is inside. I voted for the rear of the front fender, as the way it is double walled mkes that pretty tricky. Also, I'd love to get new metal shaped for just the ends of the cowl, both sides. Forming that's gonna be tricky, too. The inner inner long as you call it is available. |
| nathansnathan |
Sep 23 2010, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
I wish you could get a piece for the 'inner inner' passenger long, a foot or 2 of where it's flat under the door and then a foot or so up the slant toward the battery. I'm talking about the sort of 'corrugated' piece that you can't see because it is inside. I voted for the rear of the front fender, as the way it is double walled mkes that pretty tricky. Also, I'd love to get new metal shaped for just the ends of the cowl, both sides. Forming that's gonna be tricky, too. The inner inner long as you call it is available. To clarify, I'm not talking about any of the pieces shown here: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.restoration-design.com-11782-1285301048.1.jpg) It would be behind #23, from about that 2nd big whole back, through where the firewall attaches and up a bit on what would be behind #22. It wouldn't need to go very far up. The acid/water has gone between the 2 layers, down the slope and sits right there. It would be pretty much what's been welded in here: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1094759262.jpg) |
| 914werke |
Feb 6 2017, 09:04 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,679 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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resurrection. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So the F. trunk floor piece has been available for awhile & I hope its been a seller. So How about #2 on the list per the reply's was the Front Cross Wall for the mid years (74-74). Has there been any action towards reproducing it? I ask since I too need one for my Black 74. I had a Yellow 76 follow me home this WE before snow-pocalypse hit the Seattle area and i was considering cutting its nose off for transplant. Though I recall it being mentioned that there is a (slight) difference between the mid & late parts (beyond the holes cut out for the bumper shox)? |
| 914forme |
Feb 6 2017, 10:53 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,899 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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Another part that is rusted out on almost every 914 out there (most owners don't even know) is the top of the rear fenders right over the taillights. The factory stuffed some foam into that cavity which, after 40 years, has cracked and is now a sponge full of water with rust slowly eating it's way through. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Lots of people need these. And they are a pain to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) into shape. Or find good ones. On my list to make my life easier would also be complete narrow fenders Fronts in Eurospec, we can drill out our own wart holes if we want. And door skins. Oh if you would do a 916 roof there would be a limited market for that one also. |
| altitude411 |
Feb 6 2017, 11:21 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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This for the early cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif)
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| JFG |
Feb 6 2017, 11:54 AM
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My suggestion is the rear panel from trunk close to valance bolt holes and everything in between.
I looked at 1 car in Belgium that had a rotten and slightly bashed in rear. Another in the USA which had similar to above. The one I settled on had rust issues in the area where the trunk floor attached. Floor was shot and I got that from yourself in the Netherlands. It was a major pain for a skilled amateur to cut out and replace that. |
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