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Good luck to all you P Car guys at Packwood this weekend! |
grantsfo |
Aug 6 2010, 02:52 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Good luck to all you guys running at Packwood this weekend! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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PeeGreen 914 |
Aug 6 2010, 05:55 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) We're going to need it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
There is some seriously killer cars in our class driven by some very tallented drivers. but I know we will have fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
BMXerror |
Aug 6 2010, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,705 Joined: 8-April 06 From: Hesperia Ca Member No.: 5,842 |
What are you drivin' this weekend, Jon? Good luck. Watch out for all the crazy nuts that I race with up there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
Mark D. |
J P Stein |
Aug 7 2010, 07:50 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
The Packwod NT is well attended by the Pcar bunch.....better than most NTs, if not all. The Britbox was the only Pcar (NARP, actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)) at the Wendover NT, whereas there will be 14 or so Pcar jocks at Packwood. It's a nice drive for he local Porsche guys, well worth while to day trip & watch the big dogs run on either day.
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J P Stein |
Aug 7 2010, 03:01 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Saturday's ru **** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) ****
Class standings for XP [10 Cars] (8/7/2010 2:22:10 PM) --------------------------------------------------------- T 1 21 Duke Langley 1990 Chevy Corvette Blk Hoosier 49.303 51.650(1) 49.708 49.303 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 59 Mark Snell 2006 Lotus Exige Blk Hoosier 49.469 51.770 49.659 49.469 (0.166) --------------------------------------------------------- T 3 144 Britain Smith 1974 Porsche 914/6 Ylw Hoosier 51.360 49.588 49.554 49.554 (0.085) --------------------------------------------------------- T 4 128 Jodi Fordahl 1971 Porsche 914 White Hoosier 51.000 49.557 64.289 49.557 (0.003) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 28 Leeds Gulick 1971 Porsche 914-6 Wht Hoosier 51.478 50.336 50.234 50.234 (0.677) n: |
J P Stein |
Aug 7 2010, 03:04 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
AS 2010 Packwood National Tour
Aug 6-8, 2010 **** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) **** Class standings for ASP [11 Cars] (8/7/2010 12:33:50 PM) --------------------------------------------------------- T 1 177 Jeff Barstow 2004 Porsche 911 Slv Hoosier 51.057 51.045 50.908 50.908 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 98 Rob Boynton 2002 Porsche GT 2 Gry Hoosier 53.496(1) 51.289 50.958 50.958 (0.050) --------------------------------------------------------- T 3 77 Geoff Newman 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 Sl Hoosier 52.701 51.065 53.220(1) 51.065 (0.107) --------------------------------------------------------- T 4 119 Matt Lowell 1993 Porsche 911 RSA Bl Hoosier 57.238(1) 57.703(3) 51.462 51.462 (0.397) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 191 Eric Hyman 2009 Nissan GT-R Wht Hoosier 52.339 51.692 52.478 51.692 P |
J P Stein |
Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
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T 1 177 Jeff Barstow 2004 Porsche 911 Slv Hoosier 51.057 51.045 50.908 101.809 51.612 51.249 50.901 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 98 Rob Boynton 2002 Porsche GT 2 Gry Hoosier 53.496(1) 51.289 50.958 102.409 52.585 51.835 51.451 (0.600) --------------------------------------------------------- T 3 77 Geoff Newman 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 Sl Hoosier 52.701 51.065 53.220(1) 102.970 52.906 51.968 51.905 (0.561) --------------------------------------------------------- T 4 119 Matt Lowell 1993 Porsche 911 RSA Bl Hoosier 57.238(1) 57.703(3) 51.462 103.945 53.999 55.719(1) 52.483 (0.975) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 191 Eric Hyman 2009 Nissan GT-R Wht Hoosier 52.339 51.692 52.478 103.966 53.129 52.390 52.274 (0.021) --------------------------------------------------------- T 1 21 Duke Langley 1990 Chevy Corvette Blk Hoosier 49.303 51.650(1) 49.708 98.633 ***TTOD for doorslammers weekend**** 49.550 50.273 49.330 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 144 Britain Smith 1974 Porsche 914/6 Ylw Hoosier 51.360 49.588 49.554 99.853 51.655 50.299 52.697(1) (1.220) --------------------------------------------------------- T 3 59 Mark Snell 2006 Lotus Exige Blk Hoosier 49.469 51.770 49.659 100.145 52.589 50.999 50.676 (0.292) --------------------------------------------------------- T 4 177 Jodi Fordahl 1971 Porsche 914 White Hoosier 51.000 49.557 DNF 101.243 52.304 54.470(1) 51.686 (1.098) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 77 Leeds Gulick 1971 Porsche 914-6 Wht Hoosier 51.478 50.336 50.234 102.243 DNF DNF 52.009 (1.000) Pcars done gud. |
BMXerror |
Aug 8 2010, 05:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,705 Joined: 8-April 06 From: Hesperia Ca Member No.: 5,842 |
Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Mark D. |
PeeGreen 914 |
Aug 8 2010, 06:55 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Very fun couple of days but boy do I suck when it comes driving 911s. I didn't get DFL but I may as well have. My first NT was worth it. Next year I will hopefully be in a car I am very familiar with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
Good job Britian. Very impressive driving beating out Snell. |
J P Stein |
Aug 9 2010, 06:12 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
SCCA Porsche class?
2010 Packwood National Tour Aug 6-8, 2010 **** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) **** Class standings for AS [5 Cars] (8/8/2010 4:24:29 PM) --------------------------------------------------------- T 1 96 John Stimson 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho 54.720(1) 52.258 52.050 105.813 55.628(1) 54.438 53.763 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 185 Annie Bauer 2008 Porsche Cayman S S Hoosier 53.772 53.198 52.820 106.428 53.975 53.608 53.655 (0.615) --------------------------------------------------------- 3 85 Abe Potter 2008 Porsche Coxster S Hoosier 53.869 53.027 52.861 106.559 54.501 54.195 53.698 (0.131) --------------------------------------------------------- 4 14 Eric Moore 1997 Chevy Corvette Wht Hoosier 53.835 53.650 55.191(1) 106.784 54.241 54.172 53.134 (0.225) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 196 Elizabeth Bacon 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho 55.675 54.026 54.283 108.358 54.722 54.418 54.332 (1.574) |
grantsfo |
Aug 9 2010, 03:19 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
SCCA Porsche class? 2010 Packwood National Tour Aug 6-8, 2010 **** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) **** Class standings for AS [5 Cars] (8/8/2010 4:24:29 PM) --------------------------------------------------------- T 1 96 John Stimson 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho 54.720(1) 52.258 52.050 105.813 55.628(1) 54.438 53.763 --------------------------------------------------------- T 2 185 Annie Bauer 2008 Porsche Cayman S S Hoosier 53.772 53.198 52.820 106.428 53.975 53.608 53.655 (0.615) --------------------------------------------------------- 3 85 Abe Potter 2008 Porsche Coxster S Hoosier 53.869 53.027 52.861 106.559 54.501 54.195 53.698 (0.131) --------------------------------------------------------- 4 14 Eric Moore 1997 Chevy Corvette Wht Hoosier 53.835 53.650 55.191(1) 106.784 54.241 54.172 53.134 (0.225) --------------------------------------------------------- 5 196 Elizabeth Bacon 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho 55.675 54.026 54.283 108.358 54.722 54.418 54.332 (1.574) Well setup Cayman S in AS should be one of the top cars. Surprised SCCA hasnt relegated them to SS. |
grantsfo |
Aug 9 2010, 03:25 PM
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Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark D. You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell. |
J P Stein |
Aug 9 2010, 04:33 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark D. You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell. I agree, there is not enough money in the till to build a Porsche of sufficient performance to play in FP & if so, time will continue to push the 2 valve motor to a dead end. This year the experiment/experience was to find out how far behind the big dogs the car is......the answer is about 1.5 sec per run. That is a bunch to make up. Brit has been blown out by big HP cars, the handles are there as is his driving but when your up against cars with twice the HP you start out at a disadvantage. Prolly gonna work on that. |
PeeGreen 914 |
Aug 9 2010, 05:26 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark D. You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell. Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event. |
J P Stein |
Aug 9 2010, 08:10 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Leeeds told me that his car is not handling well. The new radial tires are causing a push. He said the tires are more heat sensetive then the old bias R35 compound and the rears get hot & the fronts don't.....which seems like a good theory. To hear him tell it, Jodi called Greg after driving the thing and wanted to know how to cure it....then it broke & we got no cure....assuming there was one.
To my eyeball, I suggested a scrub radius problem....the front wheels are wide and I assumed a standard 5 inch backspace. I did run into one fella that understood that.....the owner of the Stagnaro CP Mustang. He's gone thru 2-3 front ends to get closer to 0 scrub.....and those are huge fronts...12 or 13 inch, me thinks. I took one look at the shallow positive offset of those wheels & went to talk to him. No push there and that thing is FAST...for a CA car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I think Brit has found a solution to get wide tires up front with no scrub problems.....we'll see. |
PeeGreen 914 |
Aug 9 2010, 08:26 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Your theory makes perfect sense to me JP. I just hope Greg has time to look into it before Nationals. Leeds has been complaining a lot lately and I don't really get it. He sure isn't putting down the times he was three or four years ago. Dunno what the cause is but I have always loved watching Greg drive his car. Greg just makes that 914 dance.
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grantsfo |
Aug 10 2010, 01:53 PM
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Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark D. You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell. Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event. Have you seen Toby drive? At wide open course in a FP BMW that reportedly only makes 250 RWHP he was less than a second off XP National Class 400 RWHP Lotus. He was second place car in XP at FP weight at San Diego NT as well. While it was only reported that the B driver beat Brit by 3 seconds in FP it wasnt reported that Toby in same FP car beat Brit by over 5 seconds - he was just running the FP car in XP. In my years of AX he is one of the fastest AX'ers I have seen. Very impressive driver. Not saying a well setup FP 914 couldnt beat him but I wouldnt underestimate that BMW with Toby at the wheel. There are lots of benchmark cars up at Packwood. The ASP GT2, CP Mustang, and CSP miata that were all flattened by him in San Diego or El Toro by a couple seconds. |
brilliantrot |
Aug 10 2010, 02:39 PM
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Toby is certainly one of the best drivers I have seen. Just take a look at some of his incar video. He is on a different level than some of us mere mortals.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Aug 10 2010, 03:04 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Mark D. You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell. Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event. Have you seen Toby drive? At wide open course in a FP BMW that reportedly only makes 250 RWHP he was less than a second off XP National Class 400 RWHP Lotus. He was second place car in XP at FP weight at San Diego NT as well. While it was only reported that the B driver beat Brit by 3 seconds in FP it wasnt reported that Toby in same FP car beat Brit by over 5 seconds - he was just running the FP car in XP. In my years of AX he is one of the fastest AX'ers I have seen. Very impressive driver. Not saying a well setup FP 914 couldnt beat him but I wouldnt underestimate that BMW with Toby at the wheel. There are lots of benchmark cars up at Packwood. The ASP GT2, CP Mustang, and CSP miata that were all flattened by him in San Diego or El Toro by a couple seconds. Well, the GT2 was beat by the GT3 that is one of our local guys who is regulary beat by Greg when he drives the 914. I believe Greg and Toby may be on an even playing field where, if the equipement holds, it really just depends on who is more on that day. |
J P Stein |
Aug 10 2010, 08:07 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Assuming everyone breought their A game to the Nats in 2009;
Zust-XP: 110.2-W Maier-CP: 111.8-W Larsson-FP: 113.6-2nd Yes, good markers. Zust beat Larsson by a lesser amount (2.4 sec) at the SD NT. |
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