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> My Official 914 Restoration, The Black Beast is coming to life!!!!
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post Jan 12 2011, 11:28 PM
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I am at the same place as you are
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post Jan 13 2011, 02:33 AM
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I enjoyed hangin out in your garage. a beer would have been nice except for that pesky "towing a trailer back to san diego" thing.
this guy did what you are about to get into. enjoy the reading
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post Jan 13 2011, 02:40 AM
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I thought I had done some rust repairs till I saw htese brave souls go deep and fearlessly into the oxide precipice
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...84350&st=40
im a rookie compared to these guys
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post Jan 13 2011, 02:42 AM
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I am fixturing up a 914 tomorrow. I will post pics of the door braces monday or maybe sooner
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post Jan 13 2011, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE(EdArango @ Jan 12 2011, 11:36 PM) *

Well, this last weekend things didn't go all that great for me. I sold my engine to Sean Molloy from San Diego. While he was at me house he gave my car a "once over" and said that I had bad rust issues with my longs in both directions. I cut out a opening in the hell hole area that allowed me to lower a camera. I took a few pics from inside the longitudinal in both directions towards the front of the car and back towards the suspension console.

Take a look and you guys let me know what you think if I can patch it up or has this become the hell hole from hell!

ED

Ed - If Sean said it's bad, it's probably is. Why not look for a 500 rust free roller rather that spending 5000+ on your car? Get someone like Sean,Craig at Camp914 or one of the many experienced members on this board to help you find one that doesn't need major rust repair. Good luck, Mark
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post Jan 13 2011, 08:24 AM
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in your future I see...


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post Jan 13 2011, 08:28 AM
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if you look closely, this photo shows us why the jack point is a structural convergence and should not be deleted. it is at the flex fulcrum of the chassis where the longs terminate at teh B pillar. look how many layers "the onion" has in this location


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post Jan 13 2011, 09:21 AM
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Thanks Sean - Thanks Mark,
I guess what I've got to do is find that clean roller. I should have listen to my friend , Joe Sharp when he told me move on to another car. I guess some times it just hard to let go of these great little cars.
So all work has stopped on this car until I find a decent roller.

Ed
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post Jan 13 2011, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(ONTHEGRIND @ Jan 12 2011, 09:28 PM) *

I am at the same place as you are

Hey...so how are you doing with your car? Do yo have any pics?
Good luck withthe car.
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:49 PM
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I worked on it the last couple of days with no updates to my threat I will post pics when I get back from my fishing trip..

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post Jan 13 2011, 09:55 PM
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IMHO... from those pics I'd say fix the car you have.. pop off the rockers and clean out the rust on the longitudinals and weld on new rockers... It doesn't look like much more than surface rust inside the rockers...
As said earlier, Restoration Design has all those parts for the hell hole repair, and it would most likely be cheaper than a whole new car for what you need.. And once you're done it will have NEW metal, not just "less rusty" metal.. All steel will return to the ground (rust) eventually. All you can do is delay it long enough to enjoy the car.
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post Jan 13 2011, 10:06 PM
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I agree with Mr. Hyde It is pretty fun hacking the car and welding after all it is winter knd of work you are supposed to be doing and the Historics are not until august .. lol
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post Jan 13 2011, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(MrHyde @ Jan 13 2011, 07:55 PM) *

IMHO... from those pics I'd say fix the car you have.. pop off the rockers and clean out the rust on the longitudinals and weld on new rockers... It doesn't look like much more than surface rust inside the rockers...
As said earlier, Restoration Design has all those parts for the hell hole repair, and it would most likely be cheaper than a whole new car for what you need.. And once you're done it will have NEW metal, not just "less rusty" metal.. All steel will return to the ground (rust) eventually. All you can do is delay it long enough to enjoy the car.


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post Jan 14 2011, 12:17 PM
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I have looked at alot of used 914 chassis, and I would bet that 90% of the chassis for sale look exactly like yours inside of the longs. The sides of the longs inside looks like surface rust (ever look inside your center tunnel? most have some there too) and the bottom area may have heavier rust from the dreaded battery acid decay from the hell hole. Any area where the metal has been compromised by the battery acid, replace it.

Want to get a perspective on the longs? cut a small hole and put your camera in the passenger side, where the battery acid problem doesn't exist. Bet you find rust there too. If you put a camera in the long of most of the concourse winning cars there is gonna be rust in there too. Fact of life with these cars IMHO.

This chassis obviously has some rust issues that look overwhelming right now. If you have the time and desire you can fix it, but if you have the $$ for a better chassis go for it. I would fix it, but part of the attraction of these old cars for me is working on them. Please don't cut this car up for parts or scrap it, I will come get it, put in the corner of the shop and fix it when I am done with my tub.

Good luck with your car whatever you decide,

Jim
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post Feb 3 2011, 08:24 PM
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Ed--what's your final plan for the car, other than the 2056?

I keep seeing pieces of it coming up for sale! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 7 2011, 10:17 AM
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Hang in there Ed. There is a big light at the end of the tunnel when you get the welding done! I'll try to make El Toro btw.
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post Feb 7 2011, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(bembry @ Feb 3 2011, 06:24 PM) *

Ed--what's your final plan for the car, other than the 2056?

I keep seeing pieces of it coming up for sale! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know... I keep selling parts that I plan on replacing with parts that are more in line with a 6 conversion. I've already bought most everything except the engine and suspension.... oh, and rims and tires. The plan is a 3.0L or bigger so I'm waiting to find the right engine. I know it's out there.
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post Feb 7 2011, 09:09 PM
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Hang in there Ed. There is a big light at the end of the tunnel when you get the welding done! I'll try to make El Toro btw.

Very cool.... Bring your helmet !
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post Feb 8 2011, 07:15 AM
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post Feb 8 2011, 09:12 AM
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Looking good Ed! And all too familiar. I'm 3 years into mine and hoping to be on the road this summer. Next time I'll find a no rust/ low rust roller!

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But all good now. Best of luck. SD
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