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Test fitting doors, gap is off, FML |
Gearhead1432 |
Aug 29 2010, 01:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
I have the right side inner rocker all welded up as well as the hell hole and jack post. Is now is the time to test fit the doors before I weld in the door sill and quarter pannel? I think it should be fine. I'm concerned the chassis may have warped and I'd like to be sure before I finish the rest of the welding.
Thanks, Rob |
Mark Henry |
Aug 29 2010, 02:01 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
They should be on the whole time. Pretty hard to fix after the fact.
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Gearhead1432 |
Aug 29 2010, 04:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
I used the hinge brackets as a point to brace off of. So I was unable to leave the doors on.
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IronHillRestorations |
Aug 29 2010, 05:42 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
You need to maintain the correct door spacing when you are doing the work you describe. You need to have the doors on and latched, or brace the opening to the correct dimensions. Tangerine (a board sponsor) makes a great bracing kit.
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Gearhead1432 |
Aug 29 2010, 09:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
You need to maintain the correct door spacing when you are doing the work you describe. You need to have the doors on and latched, or brace the opening to the correct dimensions. Tangerine (a board sponsor) makes a great bracing kit. This is exactly what I did. When I measure, the door gaps are exactly what they were when I started. I guess I'm just nervous about removing the bracing. Moment of truth? -Rob |
Gearhead1432 |
Sep 11 2010, 08:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
I've finished all welding on the long so I pulled the passanger side bracing and bolted the door up. The gap just about doubled from what it was before, which was very tight at the bottom before, in fact it was almost touching. I was so worried about a shrinking door gap that I preloaded my door bracing, probably too much. The gap is 10mm at the top right now. Is there a way to shrink the gap just a little?
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Andyrew |
Sep 11 2010, 09:36 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
In my opinion there are two ways. The right way and the wrong way..
The right way is to cut the longs and do it again. The wrong way is to weld some skin to the door to visually minimize the gap. (However your window wont seal properly without spacing out the gaskets, your targa top probably wont fit right either..) I dont know what your building the car for, but its up to you.. Thats one hell of a gap there.. |
Gearhead1432 |
Nov 2 2010, 11:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
I managed to fix the passenger side. It now measures the same as it did before I statred cutting it up. The gaps look about the same too. Unfortunatly they are not uniform. Then again, they were never uniform front to back or left to right. I don't think there is any easy way to change that.
-Rob Here are some updated pictures. |
Root_Werks |
Nov 3 2010, 09:00 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,305 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That looks a lot better!
How'd you do it? Trim a little and re-weld down on the long? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 3 2010, 09:11 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,816 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
I would certainly mount the doors and the roof and check the fit.
I have the right side inner rocker all welded up as well as the hell hole and jack post. Is now is the time to test fit the doors before I weld in the door sill and quarter pannel? I think it should be fine. I'm concerned the chassis may have warped and I'd like to be sure before I finish the rest of the welding. Thanks, Rob |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 3 2010, 09:13 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,816 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Looks like the car has moved. Best adjusted on a frame rack where measuring tools are handy. Not good to guess on this one, but you know that the factory quarter panel and door fit nicely originally and that is the gap it needs to return to.
I've finished all welding on the long so I pulled the passanger side bracing and bolted the door up. The gap just about doubled from what it was before, which was very tight at the bottom before, in fact it was almost touching. I was so worried about a shrinking door gap that I preloaded my door bracing, probably too much. The gap is 10mm at the top right now. Is there a way to shrink the gap just a little? |
Gearhead1432 |
Nov 3 2010, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Altus, OK Member No.: 5,304 Region Association: None |
I cut and rewelded the long just forward of the jack post. Then I welded a reenforcement on top of that.
The doors shut, and the top fits. The door gaps look "ok" to me. Should I leave it as is? I don't know if there is any way to make the doors fit any better as the panel fit when I got the 914 was mediocre at best. Is anyone in the Tacoma area experienced in this? -Rob |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 3 2010, 02:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,816 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
I would put the bottom of the quarter panel back up to see if the gap disappears and if so have it pulled.
I cut and rewelded the long just forward of the jack post. Then I welded a reenforcement on top of that. The doors shut, and the top fits. The door gaps look "ok" to me. Should I leave it as is? I don't know if there is any way to make the doors fit any better as the panel fit when I got the 914 was mediocre at best. Is anyone in the Tacoma area experienced in this? -Rob |
cary |
Sep 3 2017, 09:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I picked the car last Sunday afternoon. Gearhead1432 is being re-stationed in Oklahoma for the next 4 years so he asked if could get his project restarted. Primary scope of work asked for, R & R rusted areas. But first thing will be to take chassis measurements and see where's he's at. At first glance his re-cut and weld on the long looks good. His hell hole repair looks tidy.
We probably won't touch it till around Christmas. It will give him time to decide whether to strip it down and epoxy primer the tub. Not my call, I'm just the hired gun. But that is my preferred method. So we start with a clean slate. Outsourced : Est. $3k. Attached image(s) |
cary |
Sep 16 2017, 04:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
With Matt on his way to Red Rocks and the shop given a deep clean it was time to deliver Rob's car to Forest Grove.
Short day today. Super In Law needs to be at the church at 3pm. So shooting pictures and labeling all the incoming parts will need to wait till next. |
Rand |
Sep 16 2017, 04:34 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Wow that's quite the flashback. Glad she's in good hands now.
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Andyrew |
Sep 16 2017, 06:27 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Awesome!!! I should send you mine to finish!! You like crazy custom stuff right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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cary |
Sep 22 2017, 08:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Took about 25 pictures of the parts that came with the car .............
Next time we get the pallet stacker out we'll get all the parts palletized and up out of the way. |
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