4 important things for me in 4 weeks, Shocks/Springs - Balljoints and Bushings |
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4 important things for me in 4 weeks, Shocks/Springs - Balljoints and Bushings |
avidfanjpl |
Sep 19 2010, 09:08 PM
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914 Hemophiliac Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
OK, I can't do it all in the time or budget I have for the next 4 weeks, but PLEASE help me on these issues I can afford now:
1. Bilstein or Bilstein Sports? - No, Not Koni's (too pricey)- I am pretty sure sports and they say they are 1/2" lower on the sports. I can stand a 1/2" lower all around. Anything will be better than my 14-7-1972 marked Boge's on the car now! LOL! 2. Springs? - 110? 120? I do pleasure drive Orangina weekly on CA roads, mostly freeways, never RAIN, no bad roads. I just stay off them. I want less body roll on AX days - There are OLD Weltmeister 100's on them now. NO SAG even now with the original Boge's and the Weltmeister 100's - Tires are brand new Yoko 205/60-15 and they fit under the standard wells with almost 1 inch clearance precisely on all 4 corners 3. Balljoints - Lemforder or what? - Need replacing, but not loose or damaged at all - just old 4. Bushings - Elephant plastic or those Bronze ones? - How hard to install FRONTS? REARS? I hear rears are a TOTAL PITA - I have someone competent doing ALL the work. This budget looks like $850 plus labor, or am I pissing up the wrong rope? THANKS! John |
tradisrad |
Sep 19 2010, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
You need a bigger budget.
I don't know the difference between the two bilsteins, my rear have an adjustable spring perch and the fronts are the bilstein inserts. 140 spring. Lemforder turbo tie rods. Elephant Poly-bronze bushings. Do you have a front sway bar? The elephant bushings are expensive and there are alternatives for the front, but I love the way my car rides on the ploy bronze bushings. They are worth every penny; my 914 is so smooth on the road (it can have a harsh hit in a pot hole). Spend the money on the parts, save $150 for a 4 wheel alignment and do all of the work your self. The rear poly bushings are a breeze if you use a 2 or 3 jaw puller to push the shaft and stock bushings out. There is a thread somewhere about it from when I did mine a year or so ago. McMark gave that hint. I dont know why elephant suggests to drill the bushing out. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=98630&hl= |
nsr-jamie |
Sep 19 2010, 09:44 PM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
Where can you get these Elephant bushings? Are they hard to install...I plan on redoing my entire suspension this winter and am about to order the shocks and have the springs here now....
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tradisrad |
Sep 19 2010, 09:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
They are located in San Jose, CA . I think you can find the how to install PDF on the web site. Not too hard to install.
http://www.elephantracing.com/suspension/d...siondiagram.htm |
avidfanjpl |
Sep 20 2010, 12:05 AM
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914 Hemophiliac Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I got a price of 428 for the 4 Bilstein sports
200 for springs. 140 is a bit extreme for me 120 may be best tie rods are new but not turbo's 240 for lemforder ball joints 5 parts complete Ok, so maybe it is 900, but it ain't 1400 till the labor is in. Agreed? Turbo tie rods are how much? J |
tradisrad |
Sep 20 2010, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I paid about $230 for turbo tie rods.
The elephant bushings are worth every penny. If you were local I'd take you for a ride and you would be impressed at how smooth the ride is... even with 140 springs. You can do all of the labor your self. Most of the guys here will "walk" you through it. You will have an overwhelming sense of satisfaction and some awesome suspension. But if $$ is not an issue then forget installing it your self. bushing alternative: http://www.tarett.com/items/914-products/f...rfbk-detail.htm |
rhodyguy |
Sep 20 2010, 09:01 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
do ALL (or as much) of the labor yourself. installing the front bushings will require removal of the front control arms. doing the rear swing arms requires removal also. don't forget to budget for the alignment that will be required for work beyond the struts/shocks/springs. this will need to be done by a shop that KNOWS their way around a 914. most, if not all of the proceedures have been documented in various threads.
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mepstein |
Sep 20 2010, 11:03 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,271 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Call Eric at PMB Performance. He carries that stuff, will give you great advice and has very good prices.
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Tom_T |
Sep 22 2010, 02:05 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
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