 5/16 Fuel Hose for 1.7 D-Jet, Source for SAE 30R9 (FI fuel hose) ?? |
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| jim_hoyland |
 Feb 4 2011, 05:43 PM
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Get that VIN ?  Group: Members Posts: 9,314 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California 
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How many feet does a typical FI car require, include any pieces for the front ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'm hearing that 10 feet is enough......? |
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| realred914 |
Feb 4 2011, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
the 30R9 is still lined with a flouropolymer, some is blue (maybe discontinued) but some is black lined, so it is hard to see (but still detectable) the SAE specification calls out for a liner. all 30R9 will have some color of a liner, black, blue what ever
the 1/4 inch wont fit right, you may get it on, but it may also eventually tear. the elbows from the factory as far as i know are NOT lined, and will degrade with todays mandated fuels (thanks to the envioro-nut jobs at CARB, be sure to vote out of office any legislator that supports CARB, get informed!) You can simply use a striaght piece of 30R9, cut the right length and it will work, just cut the length so the radius does not totally pinch down, been doing that for a while, (many years) that will work for you, much better than using the curved hose of inferior quality from a degregation stand point. some 30R7 hose is now being marketed with a warning "Not for fuel injection" this used to be the stuff to use, but not anymore. flouropolymers..... better living thru better chemistry! |
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| 914_teener |
Feb 4 2011, 06:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,204 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(realred914 @ Feb 4 2011, 04:26 PM)  the 30R9 is still lined with a flouropolymer, some is blue (maybe discontinued) but some is black lined, so it is hard to see (but still detectable) the SAE specification calls out for a liner. all 30R9 will have some color of a liner, black, blue what ever the 1/4 inch wont fit right, you may get it on, but it may also eventually tear. the elbows from the factory as far as i know are NOT lined, and will degrade with todays mandated fuels (thanks to the envioro-nut jobs at CARB, be sure to vote out of office any legislator that supports CARB, get informed!) You can simply use a striaght piece of 30R9, cut the right length and it will work, just cut the length so the radius does not totally pinch down, been doing that for a while, (many years) that will work for you, much better than using the curved hose of inferior quality from a degregation stand point. some 30R7 hose is now being marketed with a warning "Not for fuel injection" this used to be the stuff to use, but not anymore. flouropolymers..... better living thru better chemistry! Yes...California fuels require the "reformulation" it does cause the non 30R9 to degrade. I am redoing all the FI lines in my car and couldn't find the Goodyear manufactured stuff here on the West Coast. Thanks for everyone for their help....great forum. Looks like the best source is Gates now which has a SAE tested number on it. I wasn't quite sure if the "Cleveland" sourced hose had the testing designation. |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 4 2011, 06:50 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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When you say a roll you don't mention which size. Their website says it comes in 3 sizes, the largest of which is 250 ft. As far as bend radius (IIRC) 1/4" is .75in & 5/16 is 1". It's all on the Goodyear website. I may have misquoted. Better check it out.
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| fasthonda |
Feb 4 2011, 08:29 PM
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914 Type R Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 10-January 04 From: Greenville, SC Member No.: 1,544 Region Association: None |
I found the best deal for goodyear 30R9 @ Greasecar.com |
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| SLITS |
Feb 5 2011, 09:11 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(elmonte @ Feb 4 2011, 12:16 PM) Found this on-line. Great price, but you have to buy a roll http://www.europowerinc.com/cart/index.php...roduct&id=5 Tried to buy a roll ... it's a fake deal with PayPal Sandbox ... seller's email is bunk. |
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| jimkelly |
Feb 5 2011, 10:55 AM
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| elmonte |
Feb 5 2011, 01:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 31-March 03 From: Danville.ca Member No.: 499 |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Feb 5 2011, 07:11 AM) QUOTE(elmonte @ Feb 4 2011, 12:16 PM) Found this on-line. Great price, but you have to buy a roll http://www.europowerinc.com/cart/index.php...roduct&id=5 Tried to buy a roll ... it's a fake deal with PayPal Sandbox ... seller's email is bunk. Don't know what happened. Phone number is good. Did not try to order but home page looks legit. Maybe it was the link i supplied. http://www.europowerinc.com/ |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 15 2011, 10:35 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Just a quick update. I have been in touch w/ the folks at Goodyear re: this material. They have been quite helpfull in answering my questions and have agreed to send me a few samples of 1/4" and 5/16". I'll see how well these 2 sizes fit. The engine which I am rebuilding has a set of NOS injectors. That rubber must be 20+ years old so the elbows will be replaced w/ this new hose. I am hoping that the 1/4" fits and will deliver @WOT. I have saved my correspondence with them and will post in the near future.
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| jim_hoyland |
Feb 15 2011, 11:04 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,314 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Has anyone verified that non-30R9 fuel hose actually degraded in their car ? I don't mean original fuel hoses that are 35 years old, but rather more recent replacements... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I checked a couple of hose ends recently ( non 30R9 ) and couldn't see any issues. |
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