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Show Me Your Engine Compartment Seals, ...tackling this now. |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 12 2010, 08:27 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm installing new rubber engine seals around the shelves in the engine compartment.
If your engine is out, can you snap some pics of the factory corners? If I recall there's some 45's in there or some angled cuts that I's like to duplicate. There some big "staples" (for lack of a better term) as well correct? Pictures would be great. TIA. E. |
McMark |
Nov 12 2010, 08:58 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Sorry, no pics, but the whole seal is cut on a 45 at the front, then clipped together with hog rings (see upholstery). The back corners just sorta overlap.
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 12 2010, 11:19 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks Mark... that's a start. What I was thinking as well. Would like to know more about the overlaps in the back.
Anybody have pics? |
ConeDodger |
Nov 12 2010, 11:28 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,584 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
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Mikey914 |
Nov 13 2010, 01:56 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,661 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Not allway possible to miter at a 45. I've also foind that a hole punch (like you use on paper) and tip ties work well. Much easier to replace. I had a customer that sent me some pictures and it look pretty good. When you do cut, use a very sharp knife and keep it wet. It will slice like butter
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McMark |
Nov 13 2010, 12:35 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
That picture appears to show the rear 'rainbow' piece being cut just before it overlaps. I usually leave enough of the rear piece to overlap some of the horizontal seal.
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 13 2010, 12:52 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Is that the proper orientation of the rainbow seal, with the shorter slab on top?
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ChrisFoley |
Nov 13 2010, 02:58 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,925 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Doesn't this belong in the CW forum?
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 13 2010, 05:45 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Pat won't allow me to post in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif)
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ConeDodger |
Nov 13 2010, 06:02 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,584 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Really? 'Cause when I retrofit a rear foglight on my car I was going to go there to ask where to drill the holes and stuff... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
ChrisFoley |
Nov 13 2010, 07:13 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,925 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Good answer, lol. |
rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 07:24 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Here's one
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rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 07:26 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Ooops, That was on the way to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here's a couple. Sorry, I already pulled the side seals but the rainbow seal is still in place. Attached image(s) |
rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 07:28 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Eric, Do you want to use my front and side seals for a pattern? They were almost too nice to pull. If I wasn't painting the engine bay I would have left them in place. The rainbow seal pictured here is kind of ratty but you cann see the upper part of the seal is shorted than the lower part of the seal.
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Krieger |
Nov 13 2010, 08:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,707 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Money shot! This is what is left of a front seal-left side. I took two of them from wrecked cars. I trimmed them for side pieces. They seam to last very well. This is the ugaly leftover. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 13 2010, 11:07 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thenks Rick and Andy!
@ Rick - No need but, could you take a picture like Andy's? I want to finish this tomorrow and that would do it. That rainbow seal is perfect! Thanks and stay warm!! @ Andy - Excellent. So that's the left side of the front seal and it's trimmed inward to about 3/4"? @ Rob - I might like to have a look at those hog rings and pliers... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Maybe I can see a picture of the side seals where the ring went through (bottom? middle?) |
ConeDodger |
Nov 13 2010, 11:15 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,584 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Thenks Rick and Andy! @ Rick - No need but, could you take a picture like Andy's? I want to finish this tomorrow and that would do it. That rainbow seal is perfect! Thanks and stay warm!! @ Andy - Excellent. So that's the left side of the front seal and it's trimmed inward to about 3/4"? @ Rob - I might like to have a look at those hog rings and pliers... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Maybe I can see a picture of the side seals where the ring went through (bottom? middle?) Mark will get back from Tahoe tonight and back to work tomorrow. Maybe he can take a pic of where that hogring situation occurs. The hogrings and hogring pliers are in my tool box and I can have them Priority Mailed out ASAP. Though I don't know why I would be that nice considering you just cost me probably $30K less the trade in value of the 4Runner... So Oly and Sven were talking and... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 11:26 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Ok, More pics coming. I have to resize
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rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 11:36 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
My front seal to side seal did not have a hole in it for a hog ring. Are you guys sure someone didn't add a hog ring to your seal at some point? Notice the close up. No holes.
The 45 deg angle is cut very vertical on hte seal. |
rick 918-S |
Nov 13 2010, 11:37 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,456 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Couple more
I think the short flap on the rainbow seal should be behind the side seal. |
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