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> what have you done with stock FI and performance mods?, quest for a killer D-jet 2056cc motor
realred914
post Nov 13 2010, 08:08 PM
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what are the trick mods for performance power when building a D-jet motor . it is a tired 2 liter that will be getting a big bore 2056 piston kit.

what are recommendations for valves, porting compresion , etc....

will be a driver car 91 octane gas, , have SS heater exchanger, and I do want heat.

what can be done during rebuild to beef up the power????


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post Nov 15 2010, 05:58 PM
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Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've used a number of camshafts that were advertised as D-jet compatible. None were. (I've not tried Jake's, but I respect his knowledge and the hands on practical research he's done to ensure his WILL work as advertised.) Many (most?) of the others have been designed by engineers who haven't used them in an emissions controlled environment, nor do they appear to have had any practical experience in driveability. The system expects to see a certain set of vacuum characteristics that come from the stock camshaft profile, and few, if any, offerings of the big names in camshaft grinding provide those characteristics. Web Cam doesn't, Norris didn't, Isky, the same, nor any of the others I've tried. They all run really fat at idle, have a flat spot you could play pool on, and are otherwise a PITA to tune and to drive.

Consider that, please, before you pick a cam. They're a REAL PITA to replace once you've decided I might just be right.

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post Nov 15 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 15 2010, 04:58 PM) *

Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've used a number of camshafts that were advertised as D-jet compatible. None were. (I've not tried Jake's, but I respect his knowledge and the hands on practical research he's done to ensure his WILL work as advertised.) Many (most?) of the others have been designed by engineers who haven't used them in an emissions controlled environment, nor do they appear to have had any practical experience in driveability. The system expects to see a certain set of vacuum characteristics that come from the stock camshaft profile, and few, if any, offerings of the big names in camshaft grinding provide those characteristics. Web Cam doesn't, Norris didn't, Isky, the same, nor any of the others I've tried. They all run really fat at idle, have a flat spot you could play pool on, and are otherwise a PITA to tune and to drive.

Consider that, please, before you pick a cam. They're a REAL PITA to replace once you've decided I might just be right.

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I agree with The Cap'n... I tried all the off the shelf offerings with no success until I developed the 9550, 9560 and 9590 grinds back in 1999. They were all developed to have a very conservative opening event to enhance the vaccum signature that the MPS sees. This is VERY critical to proper operation.

I tried over ten variations of the first version which is based from the Web 73 grind, the lobe separation and exhaust profile are altered from that base grind.

I've sold about 1500 of these camshafts, about 60 of those were sold this year. Out of all those I've had two complaints, both from people who misconfigured the remainder of their engine around the 9550 camshaft. Thats the reason why I am so critical of the combination that my camshaft will be used in conjunction with.

Cam grinders aren't engine builders, they have no idea how their product couples to different head configurations, induction systems or exhaust systems. I tell the cam grinder what to grind, I don't ask them to recommend what I need. They are about the worst person to make the selection. I wonder how many of them drove a TIV powered car to work today?
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realred914   what have you done with stock FI and performance mods?   Nov 13 2010, 08:08 PM
rdauenhauer   check out the eng. FS in my signature :wavebye: .   Nov 13 2010, 08:17 PM
Bleyseng   My recommendation is Raby cam and lifters-(9950 or...   Nov 14 2010, 09:20 AM
realred914   My recommendation is Raby cam and lifters-(9950 o...   Nov 14 2010, 10:58 AM
Jake Raby   [quote name='Bleyseng' post='1394327' date='Nov 1...   Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM
realred914   [quote name='Bleyseng' post='1394327' date='Nov ...   Nov 15 2010, 10:18 AM
Bleyseng   Look at this for head info on the LE180 -http://ww...   Nov 15 2010, 11:31 AM
realred914   Look at this for head info on the LE180 -http://w...   Nov 15 2010, 12:00 PM
Root_Werks   Loose the D-Jet! :D   Nov 15 2010, 12:10 PM
realred914   Loose the D-Jet! :D sorry not an option f...   Nov 15 2010, 12:31 PM
Jake Raby   Partially. The smaller plugs make for stronger c...   Nov 15 2010, 01:03 PM
realred914   Partially. The smaller plugs make for stronger ...   Nov 15 2010, 04:44 PM
tradisrad   I am happy with Jakes cam, but I got one w/o the p...   Nov 15 2010, 01:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've u...   Nov 15 2010, 05:58 PM
Jake Raby   Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've ...   Nov 15 2010, 06:59 PM
rdauenhauer   I do understand that I can send my MPS to Bleysen...   Nov 15 2010, 06:04 PM
Root_Werks   I do understand that I can send my MPS to Bleyse...   Nov 16 2010, 02:56 PM
TargaToy   For you guys with experience, what kind of power c...   Nov 15 2010, 09:23 PM
Jake Raby   For you guys with experience, what kind of power ...   Nov 15 2010, 09:37 PM
roadster fan   Is there no hope to make 120-130 hp with a tuned ...   Nov 22 2010, 03:08 PM
Bleyseng   Is there no hope to make 120-130 hp with a tuned...   Nov 23 2010, 10:14 AM
TargaToy   That's good stuff, Jake. How about with a 191...   Nov 15 2010, 09:44 PM
draganc   @realred914, what is your budget? you know that ...   Nov 15 2010, 10:22 PM
vsg914   :bump: @realred914, what is your budget? you kn...   Nov 16 2010, 06:09 AM
draganc   @realred914, what is your budget? you know that ...   Nov 16 2010, 07:55 PM
tradisrad   @realred914, what is your budget? you know that...   Nov 16 2010, 08:31 AM
realred914   @realred914, what is your budget? you know that...   Nov 16 2010, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby   To those who are seriously dedicated its about muc...   Nov 16 2010, 07:49 AM
Jake Raby   And the 914 is still more of a budget minded vehic...   Nov 16 2010, 08:12 PM
realred914   my engien should be near 2 grand parts and labour....   Nov 17 2010, 10:16 AM
vsg914   Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, including...   Nov 17 2010, 10:51 AM
tradisrad   Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, includin...   Nov 17 2010, 11:15 AM
draganc   Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, includin...   Nov 18 2010, 09:01 PM
vsg914   J[quote name='draganc' date='Nov 18 20...   Nov 19 2010, 06:18 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Considering the fact that 914 cylinder head recond...   Nov 17 2010, 01:37 PM
Bleyseng   Considering the fact that 914 cylinder head recon...   Nov 18 2010, 04:50 AM
john rogers   There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I think,...   Nov 17 2010, 04:00 PM
Root_Werks   There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I think...   Nov 17 2010, 04:47 PM
realred914   There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I thin...   Nov 18 2010, 12:11 PM
stugray   vsg914, "Will i tell you where i get them? S...   Nov 17 2010, 05:18 PM
vsg914   Stu,if i share my source with the world, i would n...   Nov 18 2010, 06:41 AM
realred914   If folks wont share data, please post elsewhere, s...   Nov 18 2010, 12:19 PM
rdauenhauer   Im confused, you ask for detailed information yet ...   Nov 18 2010, 04:00 PM
realred914   Im confused, you ask for detailed information yet...   Nov 18 2010, 04:30 PM
HAM Inc   Here's the info you need for the internals fro...   Nov 18 2010, 04:38 PM
realred914   Here's the info you need for the internals fr...   Nov 18 2010, 06:24 PM
realred914   ps my under standing of the 911 swivil feet is tha...   Nov 18 2010, 06:28 PM
HAM Inc   The 911 swivel screws eliminate the friction loa...   Nov 19 2010, 09:09 AM
realred914   The 911 swivel screws eliminate the friction lo...   Nov 19 2010, 12:26 PM
Bleyseng   Good luck finding out that data as a few years ago...   Nov 20 2010, 05:30 AM
HAM Inc   I understand the desire to scrutinize the cam sp...   Nov 20 2010, 10:27 AM
realred914   I understand the desire to scrutinze the cam sp...   Nov 20 2010, 10:35 AM
Jake Raby   I understand the desire to scrutinze the cam s...   Nov 22 2010, 08:10 PM


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