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> Timing woes, I wish I wish I hadn't killed that fish!
mike_the_man
post Apr 22 2004, 09:07 PM
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Hi all,

My car was running like piece of poop recently (74 2.0L with F.I.), but backing off the timing a little made it run a fair bit better. Today I took it for a little drive, got it nice and warm, and decided to try and re-time it. It turns out that my timing was correct when it was running poorly, and now I'm very confused. I checked top dead center on the fan and on the fly wheel, as well as looking at the position of the rotor. Everything points to top dead center. I then put a new mark on the fan at 27 degrees as per the PP tech article. I also found the 27 degree mark on the fan, and it lines up with the mark that I made.

When I rev my car up to 3500 rpm and set the timing to the 27 degree mark (I disconnected the vacuum hose from the dizzy) the car runs like crap. But if I set the static timing (not revving the car up, but setting it at idle) to 27 degrees, it seems to run pretty good. I'm totally confused. Could it be that the mechanical advance isn't working? Is there any way to test the mechanical advance? What would the symptoms be?

I hope this all makes sense, and I'm sorry for the long post.

Thanks for all ideas. A (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) to the first person that gets it right.
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mike_the_man   Timing woes   Apr 22 2004, 09:07 PM
415PB   I just tested mine by using a mity vac. It didn...   Apr 22 2004, 09:14 PM
nebreitling   mike, did your car ever run great, or is this a re...   Apr 22 2004, 10:38 PM
SLITS   If you put a new mark on the fan at 27 and then fo...   Apr 22 2004, 10:42 PM
mike_the_man   Thanks guys, The car has never run perfect. I...   Apr 23 2004, 06:26 AM
SLITS   My '74 2.0L has both advance and retard. If y...   Apr 23 2004, 06:58 AM
mike_the_man   As far as I know, the 74's didn't have the...   Apr 23 2004, 08:40 AM
airsix   The vacuum retard is only activated at idle when t...   Apr 23 2004, 09:34 AM
brant   Ben and all... is that mark on the bottom of the ...   Apr 23 2004, 09:51 AM
mike_the_man   Now that I think about it, it seems like the advan...   Apr 23 2004, 09:59 AM
brant   Mike, I think that you are right and the machine...   Apr 23 2004, 10:04 AM
SLITS   There is a couple of other things: 1. If you hav...   Apr 23 2004, 10:15 AM
brant   slits, where did you get an AAR boot that looks ...   Apr 23 2004, 10:41 AM
airsix     Apr 23 2004, 10:42 AM
SLITS     Apr 23 2004, 10:48 AM
vsg914   Yep, timing mark on crank will be at the top for 1...   Apr 23 2004, 10:53 AM
mike_the_man   I have the one port throttle body, and I had the p...   Apr 23 2004, 10:55 AM
brant   yeah... my AAR boot is encased in clear silicon an...   Apr 23 2004, 11:01 AM
vsg914   Mike, the vacuum port on the throttle body goes th...   Apr 23 2004, 11:08 AM
nebreitling   trigger points   Apr 23 2004, 11:11 AM
mike_the_man     Apr 23 2004, 11:20 AM
vsg914   I had a car last year that came to me and died in ...   Apr 23 2004, 11:25 AM
nebreitling   i f-ed with my trigger points a few times. everyt...   Apr 23 2004, 01:01 PM
Dave_Darling   Sorry, Slits--but I do not believe this is correct...   Apr 23 2004, 06:25 PM
mike_the_man   No knob on my timing light, other than me! It...   Apr 23 2004, 06:50 PM


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