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> What to Look For When Buying a 911 Front Suspension Complete, Caliper to Caliper
EdArango
post Dec 21 2010, 05:31 PM
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so I'm getting ready to buy a 911 5 lug set up for my car. Anything special I need to look for or is there anything that I need to stay away from? Planning on doing this though Los Angeles Dismantlers.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Al Meredith
post Dec 22 2010, 07:41 PM
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Eric et al : What do you all think about the 912E front end, I have one which I just removed from a 1976 912E. The rotors are solid and I think the calipers are 3" . It does have the lower sway bar and an aluminum cross bar. Any comments?? Al
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post Dec 22 2010, 08:03 PM
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No Ed... You can't have the calipers off of my 308.....

We can check the Ferrari Chat site "Parts for Sale" for some take offs.
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post Dec 22 2010, 11:27 PM
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Is there a 911 strut that is still solid disk ?


Sure. Same strut basically... the ones on very early cars had solid discs but, they had a different (unobtainium) ball joint so... that's not the one. Shortly after the introduction (67 I think) they switched over to the basic strut design they have now. 912's all had this design and all were solid rotors (with the exception of the one year only 912E in 1976... which I thought were vented). Basic 911's up to 69 had solid rotors as well.

Regarding the 912E... struts would be fine. Not a fan of underbody bars as they're a one size fits all application. Through body bars offer better geometry and an amazing array of sizes to choose from. For a while there, everyone was jumping on Aluminum crossmembers but, if there's any place I'd want weight in a 914 it's up front, sprung and down low. I've heard stories of those flexing but, so far I'd rack that up as Internet myth. If it is a solid rotor and an non-spaced M-Caliper, you won't have much to gain (again, I thought everything was vented post 1970). The M-Caliper uses the same size pad as the 914 front calipers and the rotors being solid wouldn't yield an advantage. You can bolt vented rotors on those hubs however and use a Brembo or other caliper. They would give you a clean 5-lug and... most 914's don't need the vented rotor. Ed's will however. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 23 2010, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Beach914 @ Dec 22 2010, 06:03 PM) *

No Ed... You can't have the calipers off of my 308.....

We can check the Ferrari Chat site "Parts for Sale" for some take offs.

Funny Dave!......I'm thinking that I'll keep the same rear calipers for the whole emergency brake issue.
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post Dec 23 2010, 01:20 PM
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308 calipers are the same casting as the 914-6 GT. Parking brake included. Just need a small mod to work.
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post Dec 24 2010, 11:47 AM
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I'm thinking that I'll keep the same rear calipers for the whole emergency brake issue.


You'll be biased heavy toward the front.

Best bet; take your -4 calipers off, head over to Dave's house after hours and do a midnight swap... he'll never know.

Here's Mark's new bleeder holes:
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The Ferrari's are the same as a 914-6/GT caliper.
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post Dec 24 2010, 11:59 AM
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This great fun!!! Our attack Yorkie will bite his ankles.

I'll keep my eyes open on the Ferrari Chat site. No calipers on there right now.

It will be fun to help you mount what ever you get so that I can observe and learn also.
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post Dec 24 2010, 12:02 PM
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I'll sell these ones, when I'm done, to the highest bidder! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

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post Dec 24 2010, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(John @ Dec 21 2010, 08:47 PM) *
Not only caliper weight. Ever consider rotor weight? My 930 calipers don't weigh much, but the rotors do...... Of course they do stop well.

On this point Eric mentioned that switching to vented Rears really adds up,
What about 2 piece rear rotors (Alum hats fastened to the vented brake surface)
Has anyone found an economical part to use.
I anticipate the weight savings would be similar to the fronts?
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post Dec 24 2010, 03:19 PM
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This great fun!!! Our attack Yorkie will bite his ankles.

I'll keep my eyes open on the Ferrari Chat site. No calipers on there right now.

It will be fun to help you mount what ever you get so that I can observe and learn also.


I placed a WTB on the Ferrari site. Requested something ugly and core condition that could be rebuilt. Purchased for $200 + shipping. Eric said that was a good price. Had them sent directly to PMB for rebuild and mods.

I would suggest contacting Eric, go over the big picture and have him help you put together an outline of parts needed to complete. It would have saved me time and money in the long run. Things you might not think about, like heavier duty cv's for the big engine will require different hubs and axles. and like all the other conversion issues, there's a couple different ways to get there.

ATMO,
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