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> KitCarlson EMS Accessory, A wiring helper.
KitCarlson
post Apr 28 2004, 02:17 PM
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I am pleased that Brad and Mark have the beta unit running, in a short time they will get used to my silly setup software and have the engine running to meet all expectations.

I have been building additional EMS units for a few more test installs. One will go on a turbo 914, one for Jake to experiment with and one for Brad Mayuer (Midwest 914 Expert). To make things simple for the installs I have built a simple enclosure, to mount relays, injector resistors and EMS unit. It can be mounted in place of a D-Jet box, and used for somewhat universal application. This is not a new idea, Jeff Bowlsby suggested this as a way to do a stealth install. Jeff is a long distance away, so I am blundering away doing this wiring the best I can. When things are fully sorted and I quit changing details in the design Jeff will build an great harness for specific applications.

If high impedance injectors are fitted, and the 914 relays are used only the EMS needs to be in the enclosure.

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Jake Raby
post Apr 28 2004, 02:30 PM
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I'm awaiting mine for sure! I'll be able to get dyno comparisons on all of my miost popular engines within a month! I have atleast one of each in the works as we speak... thats a rare thing, and I'll definately take advantage of it.
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post Apr 28 2004, 04:23 PM
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Hummm.. ask Jeff who suggested it to him.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I was expecting something that fit in the stock location because of our PCA/SCCA rules.

Right now the tuning is cumbersome only because of the key's needed to perform the changes.

Holding the shift key for right arrow is a pain. I need to be able to arrow back also instead of having to move forward all the way through the numbers.

T = for toggle works great
S = save works great

Not bad. I know it is a easy fix. It is VERY easy to read right now. I love it.


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post Apr 28 2004, 04:26 PM
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I want one! I want one!!! Bye bye MPS. That would make me happy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 28 2004, 04:31 PM
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It idles so smooth I can set it down to 400 RPM.

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post Apr 28 2004, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Apr 28 2004, 02:31 PM)
It idles so smooth I can set it down to 400 RPM.

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Don't tell me these things! IwantitIwantitIwantitIwantit!
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post Apr 28 2004, 05:08 PM
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Wow! Impressive. So this will be available to everyone some day?
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post Apr 28 2004, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Apr 28 2004, 02:23 PM)
Hummm.. ask Jeff who suggested it to him.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I was expecting something that fit in the stock location because of our PCA/SCCA rules.

I would ask where you got that idea from, but I know I never said anything about it to you!!

It's not exactly an idea that will never occur to anyone... Why do you think I have two Megasquirt kits at home (where they've been for quite a few years now)?

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post Apr 28 2004, 06:01 PM
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If it pulls that low, what i can do with camshafts is unlimited! Hell Yeah!

BTW, Webers went up again, over 1050.00 now for 44s!
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post Apr 28 2004, 06:11 PM
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Im excited guys. Thanks Brad and MarkD for the hard work, I wish I was more useful when it comes to tuning, but I am a complete idiot when it comes to computer interface. Thanks Mueller for the welding help. I wanna drive!
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post Apr 28 2004, 06:19 PM
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Soon grasshopper.. soon. Oh.. and dont think we aren't keeping track of the hours it took to get the brakes bled and the thing running..LOL BRING CASH.

You should be done bleeding any day now.


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post Apr 28 2004, 08:32 PM
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Brad,
I use a Palm M105 ( a very cheap older one) running a program called Online by Mark-Space. The 4 keys on the Palm can be set to 't", ">", "-", "+" from left to right. It then becomes very intuitive to do the setups. You need a null modem cable (swap of pins 2 and three, common on pin 5).

I can also modify the code, let me know what charaters you want to use. It will only take a few minutes. You will also need to do a down load, also simple and fast fast thing to do.
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post Apr 28 2004, 08:39 PM
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So what makes this EMS better/different than Megasquirt?
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post Apr 28 2004, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Apr 28 2004, 06:39 PM)
So what makes this EMS better/different than Megasquirt?

It goes to 11 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 28 2004, 09:07 PM
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"Kit"

I'll fire up an old Palm pilot I have. I also have a Casiopiea if that will work.

JeffK,

It is all inclusive. Plug and play instead of "solder and pray" New harness..new coil pack.. boards built by pro's instead of home users.

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post Apr 28 2004, 09:11 PM
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Maybe I can stop by the shop and have a look sometime. I would like to see it.
Sounds like a good system.
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post Apr 28 2004, 09:33 PM
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You can find "VT Online by Mark-Space" at Palmgear.com
Kit

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I did an install using the wiring helper today. It took about1 hr and 15 minutes to terminate all connections and bolt on parts. The system looks much cleaner than my prior install. I took pictures before and after.

The system started immediately and ran great. It is a turbo setup running N/A for testing, prior to the real install. The real install is going to be a 12 hr drive for me. I want to make sure nothing goes wrong. This is the first test of the EMS2 other than bench and simulator tests.
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post Apr 28 2004, 09:39 PM
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Did I hear someone say "group buy"??? No? Okay. GROUP BUY!!! Count me in.
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post Apr 28 2004, 09:49 PM
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No group buy's. There is still packaging and marketing issues to tackle.

If things go well.. we should have several cars with the EMS2 setup on them.

One of them will be a 2270.


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post Apr 28 2004, 10:09 PM
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Very impressive. Maybe my next 914.. but this current engine is on its last legs.. I can not wait to throw (ok, so im going to rebuild it for practice, and for another car) this engine out.

I cant wait to see the final results of this. 400 idle? so.. could you actually do that??

lol

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