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black trim on some cars |
VRROOMM1 |
Feb 28 2011, 10:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 15-July 08 From: mt. dora fl Member No.: 9,302 Region Association: South East States |
hi i have a set of black trim i took off a car did some non aperance group cars have black not chrome trim? thanks doug h
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Tom_T |
Feb 28 2011, 12:00 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Yup - the 74 LE's had the "blacked-out look" that I know of, and maybe some others.
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DanT |
Feb 28 2011, 06:34 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
DaveKs car has black bumpers and black targa trim, no vinyl etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Mar 15 2011, 08:38 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,354 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
My 73 Ravenna car has black sail trim and no targaa vinyl.
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silver74insocal |
Mar 15 2011, 09:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 26-November 09 From: rancho cucamonga Member No.: 11,073 Region Association: Southern California |
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dlkawashima |
Mar 16 2011, 12:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
Here's a picture of my car (that Dan mentions above). It's a late model year '73 2.0 - build date of 6/73. Notice the black bumpers, black trim surrounding the back of the targa bar, and the lack of vinyl on the sail panels.
I've tried to find out more about these black trim 2.0's from '73 but information on these seems to have fallen through the cracks. As best as I can tell, relatively few USA-spec 2.0's were trimmed out like this -- most are 1.7's. They were built in the second half of the model year, from as early as 3/73 and possibly earlier, onward. You can read more about this model in a thread I started here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=112525 If you read through the thread I linked, you'll see that the car was outfitted to fit into a gap in the price between the standard 1.7 and the fully optioned 2.0. Basically, the car was stripped of most of the options from the Appearance group except the center console and retained most of the options from the Performance group. In the back: black bumper, black trim around the targa bar, no vinyl on sail panels (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s2.postimage.org-12234-1300299119.1.jpg) In the front: black bumper, no fog lights (skirt below valance is aftermarket) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s2.postimage.org-12234-1300299120.2.jpg) |
larryM |
Jun 12 2011, 11:00 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
Black, instead of bright, trim around the windows, winshield, rear sail, and even door handles, etc was a common appearance differentiation feature on 914-6's in Germany;
i have owned 2 of these euro 6's with all black trim - I always suspected it was intentionally done by the owners to make the sixes stand out from the proletarian 4's - but that's just a guess my own sixer came with black trim - but when I changed the car to all black, i chose to trim it bright - i still have a couple of the original black pieces if you look at the 1974 pictures of my car in Germany you'll see that distinction http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2561894430069941679Eclwfg hi i have a set of black trim i took off a car did some non aperance group cars have black not chrome trim? thanks doug h |
SirAndy |
Jun 14 2011, 10:44 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,581 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
At least on early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers.
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scotty b |
Jun 14 2011, 09:18 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Was the original black, paint or anodizing ?
FWIW I have scrapped several standard cars over the years with black bumpers but none had black trim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jun 14 2011, 10:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,581 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Was the original black, paint or anodizing? Black ... Never mind the wrong wheels on the car pictured ... Attached thumbnail(s) |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 15 2011, 05:14 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
At least on early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The ONLY black trim I've seen on VERY early 914's was anodized (you could tell by the fading of years, and it was aluminum). But, it could be a Euro thing. Early bumpers (non-app grp) were painted body color. Never, ever have I seen mouldings in this country painted to match (as shown on the rear of your pic). Odd that the windshield molding would be anodized black, yet the targa rear moulding painted. Maybe, again, a Euro thing. There are so many anomolies with the very early 914's, than one would be hardpressed to argue with an original owner (note: original owner). Keeps it interesting, eh? Pat |
JeffBowlsby |
Jun 16 2011, 02:10 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,439 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Cool...they must have changed the windshield or at least the trim on 4702900001. This photo from a couple years ago.
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Mikey914 |
Jun 17 2011, 12:12 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,625 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
As you may know I have been working on the trim for the windshield and the sails are in the works but still a ways out. I have acquired a set of windshield and sail trim that I thought were from a LE. It appeared to have a paint that etched into the aluminum(kind of like an acid etch), and even faded a little like black anodized would look .
It was definitely a paint as when I scratched it I could see that it was adhered to the surface of the aluminum, but only under a magnifying glass. They looked like high quality pieces and I thought they were OEM, can anyone confirm the anodizing for sure. I want to make them just like OEM. Perhaps these were just an acid etch paint? |
Jasfsmith |
Jun 17 2011, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
At least on early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Not to be picky but as I recall the early "plain Jayne" cars had matching targa bar trim, bumpers and plain fog light location grilles painted to match the car. Especially true of '70 thru '72 914-4's, black trim and bumpers on '73-'74. Never saw a street 914-6 other than chrome and vinyl sails. And now I suspect someone will prove me wrong... as usual. |
JeffBowlsby |
Jun 20 2011, 11:48 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,439 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
The 74 LE cars came with black painted rear Targa bar trim. This piece showed up on ebay a few years ago, said it was PN 914.559.107.13
I can find no other reference to this part #, but it is definitely a satin paint, not anodized, and is high quality. It is the best photo I have seen of this color/sheen. All LE's I have seen with their original paint/trim have this finish. Attached image(s) |
lennyhope |
Nov 24 2013, 02:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 2-November 11 From: prescot Member No.: 13,736 Region Association: England |
The 74 LE cars came with black painted rear Targa bar trim. This piece showed up on ebay a few years ago, said it was PN 914.559.107.13 I can find no other reference to this part #, but it is definitely a satin paint, not anodized, and is high quality. It is the best photo I have seen of this color/sheen. All LE's I have seen with their original paint/trim have this finish. My car is a 1973 1.7 Non Appearance Group car...I thought ALL the NA Group cars came with black trim?! The other bits and pieces are my period dealer add ons...The car is now UK registered here in England... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i152.photobucket.com-13736-1385281611.1.jpg) |
dlestep |
Nov 24 2013, 07:15 AM
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I am smilin'... Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Sunrise Florida Member No.: 8,573 Region Association: South East States |
I am not an authority on this, but I didn't see black trim state-side until '74.
I did see blacked-out trim in Germany, (1969-1972). My first impression is that it immediately took-away from the car. It didn't seem normal, and at that time, I thought it looked tacky. For the longest time, I thought people were painting them black. A friend in Sacramento, had purchased an Adriatic Blue, 1970, with no vinyl on sail panel, and with anodized trim. It even had the deposit and passenger foot piece. The first time I saw an M471, I thought it was awesome. I still think that the only color that the blacked-out trim looks best on is orange, and that's without the vinyl. I don't like the trim blacked-out with the vinyl. But that's me. |
Matt Romanowski |
Nov 25 2013, 07:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 878 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Manchester, NH Member No.: 1,507 |
Alan Caldwell (PCA Tech Chair) can tell you all about these cars. They were done in 73 as a way to "spice up" the car and get more to sell. It was basically the appearance package in black without the vinyl on the sail panels.
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Jasfsmith |
Nov 25 2013, 08:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
At least on early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The ONLY black trim I've seen on VERY early 914's was anodized (you could tell by the fading of years, and it was aluminum). But, it could be a Euro thing. Early bumpers (non-app grp) were painted body color. Never, ever have I seen mouldings in this country painted to match (as shown on the rear of your pic). Odd that the windshield molding would be anodized black, yet the targa rear moulding painted. Maybe, again, a Euro thing. There are so many anomolies with the very early 914's, than one would be hardpressed to argue with an original owner (note: original owner). Keeps it interesting, eh? Pat I suspect you will find that the window trim in the photo is bright aluminum. My "plain Jayne" '70 914/4 came with body colored bumps and targa trim. |
lennyhope |
Nov 25 2013, 10:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 2-November 11 From: prescot Member No.: 13,736 Region Association: England |
So....my Summer Yellow 1.7 NA Group car, pictured above..., is rare, as only 1973??
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