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> Oil Leak Fix - Attempt Number 4-6 (Somewhere in there), Suggestions on fixing an oil leak issue by the flywheel
netbanshee
post Mar 8 2011, 06:53 PM
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Hey everyone,

Been reading the forums for some years, but haven't had much to say up until now. So Hi, Hey and Hello. Nice to meet you.

I'm looking for some feedback and/or recommendations on an issue my '70 914 1.7l is having. After replacing the flywheel seal a few times to no avail, my father and I are starting to look at a few other options and suggestions.

Here's the car (upon delivery and there on):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/netbanshee/27...in/set-1076179/

Regardless of what's been done so far, the car still manages to leak oil at about a drip every 1-2 seconds out of the bottom of the engine near the flywheel. The oil leak persisted after the car blew an oil galley plug behind the flywheel. Before the car decided to dump most of her oil out in the driveway, I was able to shut the car off and keep things from getting much worse.

We proceeded to pull the engine and tranny, pull all of the galley plugs and threaded in some new ones. We also hit them up with JB Weld for added assurance.

At this point we went ahead and gave the drivetrain and a good once over. We hadn't really pulled apart the car since I purchased it 3 years ago, so no better time then. The car was generally pretty solid up to that point since the owner kept the car in good shape and only put a few thousand miles on the car over the years after an extensive restoration.

We checked the pressure release valves, replaced various gaskets, the fuel lines, relocated the fuel pump under the gas tank, fixed up the hell hole before it got away from us, etc., etc. We then went about replacing the flywheel seal and flywheel o-ring. The 3 shims were in good shape so got them cleaned and lubricated before putting them back in the way they were. We permatexed the outside of the flywheel seal, seated it, bolted everything back up and got the drivetrain back in the car.

After starting the car, we started to get the oil leak I described. Since then, we have tried different flywheel seals (Elring Klinger at first, then Victor Reinz since) to no avail. We made sure that the end play on the crank was between .003 - .004mm and that we seated the seal flush with the case and in slightly different depths so it didn't ride in the previous spot. Also of note, the leak is definitely between the flywheel and the case. There isn't any foul smelling gear oil from the tranny to note.

There isn't any indication that the galley plugs are anything but solid, so our thought was that there was an issue with the flywheel seal. Now that we've replaced it a few times, we're looking at other options.

We were thinking that it might be time to replace the flywheel and bolts. The paperwork I have on the restoration suggests that the original flywheel was machined and polished (dual surface) and we did notice that the flywheel seal we initially removed (don't have it anymore) was white and nothing we had seen before. Possible the seal was a different type?

So, what does everyone think? Any other ideas or suggestions beyond a new flywheel?

Thanks,
Sean (netbanshee)
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netbanshee   Oil Leak Fix - Attempt Number 4-6 (Somewhere in there)   Mar 8 2011, 06:53 PM
netbanshee   Some updates... The place I attempted to order a ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:26 PM
netbanshee   We bought some slightly undersized NOS seals to pl...   Mar 21 2011, 08:11 PM
Marty Yeoman   Have you tried using a Ready-Sleeve? They're a...   Mar 21 2011, 08:26 PM
netbanshee   Thanks to everyone who reached out so far. :) Aft...   Mar 25 2011, 03:54 PM
Cap'n Krusty   In all you've written, I don't see a singl...   Mar 25 2011, 05:46 PM
netbanshee   Cap'n We replaced the O-ring when we first dr...   Mar 25 2011, 06:29 PM
Cap'n Krusty   My mistake, it's in the original post. Accept...   Mar 25 2011, 07:24 PM
tradisrad   I had an oil leak coming from the drivers side stu...   Mar 25 2011, 07:31 PM
Ericv1   I went through a similar situation on my first 914...   Mar 26 2011, 02:50 AM
netbanshee   Sorry it took me a bit to get back. Busy weekend :...   Mar 27 2011, 07:41 PM
ppetion   Sorry it took me a bit to get back. Busy weekend ...   Mar 27 2011, 10:18 PM
netbanshee   Just got back from some investigation back home th...   Apr 3 2011, 07:37 PM
nathansnathan   It sounds to me like the problem may be to do with...   Apr 3 2011, 08:53 PM
ppetion   It sounds to me like the problem may be to do wit...   Apr 3 2011, 08:57 PM
Cap'n Krusty   It sounds to me like the problem may be to do wi...   Apr 3 2011, 10:52 PM
ppetion   [quote name='ppetion' post='1453255' date='Apr 3 ...   Apr 3 2011, 10:58 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='ppetion' post='1453255' date='Apr 3...   Apr 3 2011, 11:23 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='ppetion' post='1453255' date='Apr 3 ...   Apr 3 2011, 11:27 PM
Cap'n Krusty   [quote name='ppetion' post='1453255' date='Apr 3...   Apr 4 2011, 08:01 AM
nathansnathan   [quote name='nathansnathan' post='1453340' date='...   Apr 4 2011, 09:20 AM
nathansnathan   I'm not sure if the stock system generates any...   Apr 3 2011, 09:30 PM
netbanshee   During two of the latest seal change attempts, we ...   Apr 4 2011, 10:29 AM
vsg914   Man this thread has gotten hard to follow. When fo...   Apr 4 2011, 10:42 AM
netbanshee   vsg914 - Hoping to remedy that. :) Waiting for an ...   Apr 8 2011, 08:30 PM
netbanshee   My Dad hooked up an oil pressure gauge to the car ...   Apr 20 2011, 10:18 PM
netbanshee   Hey everyone... been quite a bit. There are defini...   Jul 8 2011, 05:06 PM
simonr   How are you installing the seal. I tried tapping t...   Jul 8 2011, 05:14 PM
netbanshee   Simonr, I've installed them with a ball peen ...   Jul 8 2011, 05:28 PM
nathansnathan   I picked up a few of these seemingly over priced s...   Jul 9 2011, 11:49 PM
ppetion   I picked up a few of these seemingly over priced ...   Jul 10 2011, 07:53 AM
netbanshee   nathansnathan / ppetion, Talk about synchronicity...   Jul 10 2011, 08:34 AM
netbanshee   Well... a long time, but finally some good news. ...   Oct 24 2011, 11:26 AM


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