Production month, production month Options

[porbmw]

I need, for documentation purposes, to figure out production month of 1970 914-6 .... VIN .....1945.......

Can anyone out there tell me???

Many thanks

Paul

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

As my friend Dave Pateman has researched: "The 914/6 Karmann badge does not include the body # as does the 914/4 badge. It does include the paint code of the style that Porsche used on the 911 in 1970 & 1971. Whereas the 911 badge used 4 numeric digits and a character to designate the colour and manufacturer, the 914/6 used two digits only up until 9141430400 or so. After that it used the 914/4 VW paint codes.

"The body #'s on the 914/6 are similar to the 911 body #'s and quite unlike the 914/4 body #'s. The form is 1xyzzzz except that in 1970 Karmann screwed up and omitted the 'y'. The 'x' is always 3 for the 914/6 and probably represents a Karmann built 914/6 body as opposed the the 911 using 0, 1, & 2 for coupe, targa & Karmann built. The 'y' represents the year 0 for 1970 etcetera. The last four digits are just sequential #'s as the bodies were welded up and painted. The bodies were numbered before painting, and one would typically expect sequential numbers to be painted in the same colour. In 1970 the body number was stamped into the rear trunk floor in front of the trunk lock. In following years it was stamped in the right rear corner of the trunk floor. It is not known if the change in location was exactly linked to the year code change in the body #. It is known that at least one 1970 VIN got a 1971 body #. It appears that all the 916's got very late 1971 914/6 bodies as we all know


The dash #'s on the 914/6 followed the same form as the body numbers, however they always included the year digit. In early production the dash number and body number were not synchronized, but by the end of 1970 model year production they did match, and it appeared to remain matching."

That is about all I know the numbers really did not tell the week and date as the fours do and obviously your door jamb sticker is missing!!!!

I need, for documentation purposes, to figure out production month of 1970 914-6 .... VIN .....1945.......

Can anyone out there tell me???

Many thanks

Paul

[GeorgeRud]

If it helps at all, my 1970 914-6 (#611) was built in February of 1970. If others chime in, you may be able to get a pretty good idea of the build date of yours.

[SirAndy]

If it helps at all, my 1970 914-6 (#611) was built in February of 1970. If others chime in, you may be able to get a pretty good idea of the build date of yours.

While the US doorjamb sticker probably get's you close to the actual build date of the car, don't forget those stickers were for the US market export only.

IMHO, it's doubtful those represent the actual build date of the car.
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[Jeffs9146]

I was able to figure out the day and number durring that day that my car was made!

Door jam number is 4139258 which converts to the 41st week of the year manufactured 3rd day of the week manufactured 92 is the plant number of manfuacture and 58th car that day!

That converts to Oct 12th or the 285th day of 1975 and the 58th car off the line that day!

Wed is always a good day to have your car made!!

[SirAndy]

I was able to figure out the day and number durring that day that my car was made!

That's for a /4 ... He's talking /6 ... Completely different .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[Jeffs9146]

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[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

and for you four cylinder guys: "The 914/4 Karmann number is of the form WWD9ABB

WW is the week of the year
D is the day of the week (1 through 5)
9 don't know why it is there, but it never changes
A varies predictably; up to Sept 74 it is a base of 5
from Sept 74 it is a base of 0
so early cars: base of 9500 to which is added the daily sequence number
late cars: base of 9000 to which is added the daily sequence number

therefor you could get 9630 if the car was the 130th that day

As you know, for the '75 and up they went with the tag in the front trunk. Some early (August) '75s had the number on the paint tag and in the front trunk with the old base of 9500. It would be very interesting to find the transition point range. There would be a range due to their manufacturing process. The painted bodies were done in color batches, and stored in a warehouse. Later, they would be taken for final assembly where the VIN would be attached. So the chassis numbers could almost be at random. Any change in final assembly that is denoted for a particular VIN would not necessarily be true for changes to the chassis. Who knows how long a chassis may have languished in the warehouse before being assembled, particularly if it was an unpopular color."

I was able to figure out the day and number durring that day that my car was made!

Door jam number is 4139258 which converts to the 41st week of the year manufactured 3rd day of the week manufactured 92 is the plant number of manfuacture and 58th car that day!

That converts to Oct 12th or the 285th day of 1975 and the 58th car off the line that day!

Wed is always a good day to have your car made!!

[porbmw]

I was able to figure out the day and number durring that day that my car was made!

Door jam number is 4139258 which converts to the 41st week of the year manufactured 3rd day of the week manufactured 92 is the plant number of manfuacture and 58th car that day!

That converts to Oct 12th or the 285th day of 1975 and the 58th car off the line that day!

Wed is always a good day to have your car made!!

This is a GREAT site.

Doesn't anybody out there WORK...or are we all just reading posts, while faking it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I haven't gotten one bit of work done all day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif)


Thanks for all the responses....so far....am still hoping for a few more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I probably should also have been a bit more specific as to reason for the inquiry...

George, you are right...my car does not have the door jamb sticker..... As a result, I bought one of yours, but would like to know what month to insert....(It also is missing the badge...that is next on the to do list....)

Here's my disclaimer...as I do not profess in any way to be an expert on any of this...the members on this board are wya ahead of me on pretty well every aspect...

Thanks, GeorgeRud...611 puts us at February....and from all I can gather, the bulk of 1970 production was in the early 1/2 of 1970, as I am guessing Porsche found themselves oversupplied with 6s, and started slowing down production as the months went on (too bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) )

I went on Aramando's GT site...his car is 1722, and his door jamb sticker is 04/70....I don't think anyone has messed with his sticker, so odds are that his car came off the line in about April

RE Jeffs 9146....thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if it works for me, since I am dealing with a fairly early 6....I think Porsche had a different numbering system for the 6s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Re SirAndy...I am sure that the best I am doing is getting close....However, all I am hoping for is close...well, at least...close to the point where I am pretty certain as to month of build.....If the members can help me nail that down, I'll be happier than the pig in poop.....

BTW SirAndy....I tried to register my car(s) once, but I am such a tool, it didn't seem to work. I'm plugging away at getting 710 and 1945 back in the running (both 1970 production....)...IF you happen upon this again, could you please contact me or update the VIN records to add these (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Again, thanks to all

Paul

[sixerdon]

I need, for documentation purposes, to figure out production month of 1970 914-6 .... VIN .....1945.......

Can anyone out there tell me???

Many thanks

Paul

Since you are just looking for the production month, badm owns #1940 which has a 5/70 build date. (Refer to the VIN listings in 914 Info.) Or, get a CoA from PCNA which should give you a production month date.
Hope this helps.
Don

[davep]

1945 would have a DOT decal date of 05/70

[CG-914]

If you wanna have it official:

Give Porsche in Stuttgart your VIN# and they sent you a official document.
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But that should include the birth date!

[Jasfsmith]

My 914-6 #1113 has a 04/70 production note on my COA for what that's worth. Good luch on finding a date.

[porbmw]

1945 would have a DOT decal date of 05/70

Thanks to all the replied/helped

Wouldn't have sorted it out without the responses....

Great group

[davep]

My pleasure. This info has come out of our members VIN registry and my own research since 1975. I don't have all the answers, yet, but I'm working on it. I haven't been around as much in the last few years as I used to be. Part of the reason is that I've been hanging out on the dark side (911 & 912) boards around the world. I've done a lot of research on those cars as well now. Can you believe that in this day and age they still have no definitive knowledge of the true change of model year from 1965 to 1966? There has been a lot of research done, and a lot of theories put forward, but there is still no complete agreement. Porsche never made it easy by stating it clearly, and did not complete the cars in VIN sequence either.

[Al Meredith]

I have a 1970 914-6 #1937 the trunk # is 131712 and the under dash # is 1301952 Does that help anyone. AL

[Tom_T]

Try ordering a COA for one or all. IIRC PCA members get about $20 off the COA cost, so 2-3 gets you back the $42 annual membership, then the monthly mags are free! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm no PCA wank - only joined in 09 due to the benefits & info for my 73 2L's resto - but I can really see the bennies for you with 3 COAs! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Sir Nick]

Sorry, but I'm sort of new here. Altough I've owned the same 914-6 for almost 31 years, I still am confused by the numbers. I've read that there were 2658 sixes built in 1970. Mine is #2648. Does that mean that it was in fact the 10th from the last 1970 built? What sequence did they build them? The vin tag in the front trunk on the right headlight mount has a line that reads "heizg. typ 914/6 prufz. ~~ S102". Pardon my German, but what is the S102 (the S is embossed and the 102 is stamped) mean? The door tag says it was built 07/70. The four digit # on the floor of the rear trunk just forward of the latch housing is 2108. That's a long way from 2648!

Thanks.

[rick 918-S]

Sorry, but I'm sort of new here. Altough I've owned the same 914-6 for almost 31 years, I still am confused by the numbers. I've read that there were 2658 sixes built in 1970. Mine is #2648. Does that mean that it was in fact the 10th from the last 1970 built? What sequence did they build them? The vin tag in the front trunk on the right headlight mount has a line that reads "heizg. typ 914/6 prufz. ~~ S102". Pardon my German, but what is the S102 (the S is embossed and the 102 is stamped) mean? The door tag says it was built 07/70. The four digit # on the floor of the rear trunk just forward of the latch housing is 2108. That's a long way from 2648!

Thanks.

I'm not the expert here. Someone will likely chime in. But I wanted to say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif)

Here's a suggestion. Start a new thread with a new guy intro and post your question there. New guys first posts usually get lots of traffic.

And we have to see your 6! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) So please post photos! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif)

[Cap'n Krusty]

This sounds suspiciously like a thread that belongs in the 356 concours weenie forum .......... Next we'll be hearing questions about what the guys on the assembly line had for dinner the night before, and lunch the day the car was built. And maybe who was out sick, not feeling well, or had a fight with the wife.

It's a JOKE, guys! Have fun.

The Cap'n