Fire extinguisher, Often seen mounted inside teeners |
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Fire extinguisher, Often seen mounted inside teeners |
fastfingers |
Apr 16 2011, 10:54 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 12,819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I've owned both a 73 and 74 Porsche 914 and often find myself looking at all the fabulous cars shown here and available for sale out there. I long to own one again some day. Now, to my question.
What's with the fire extinguishers? I often see a 914 with one mounted in the passenger compartment. I'm wondering is this really for a sudden engine fire, or is it used to solve the occasional vapor lock problems? What's the story? |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 16 2011, 11:00 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well, old cars can have interesting issues and it is better safe than sorry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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nsr-jamie |
Apr 16 2011, 11:34 AM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
With old fuel lines (Actually most of us changed to new ones) and possible gas leaks and fires that can happen rather too quickly its good to have one on hand just incase it ever happens. Most times you will never need it, but its nice to know you have one there.......AND they also look cool in your car if you want to score poser points or racer looks. I am trying to figure out some way to mount one in my own car right now. Personally I love the look of them and having the added security makes me feel at ease
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Tom_T |
Apr 16 2011, 11:39 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Due to the battery location in the engine bay over the motor & fuel lines, which can cause battery acid from fumes or boil-over to get washed down from rail/wash water coming in the engine lid cooling grill, down onto the motor, & then to eat through the original fabric covered rubber fuel lines, leak on the hot engine & ignite. A fair number of 914s have been damaged that way.
Ergo, for safety's sake it's smart to carry a fire extinguisher in a 914 - or ANY car, truck, boat, RV - & it's required for the latter 2 by law, as well as in any racer by the race org's. regulations. Our 88 VW Westy came with one from the factory, being classified as a RV. NHTSA made Porsche issue a recall in the mid-70's called the "HO Recall" to replace the battery cover with a full cover (orig. had cutouts for the top posts), and replace with solid rubber acid resistant lines. It's also smart to wash off the battery & tray/support/hell hole with baking soda regularly, coat the tray with battery tray protectant &/or use a battery acid absorbing pad available at FLAPS/Pcar parts dealers. You can check with PCNA Customer Care using a 914's VIN to see if the HO was ever done (&/or any other NHTSA recalls), and any not done are required to be performed by your local Porsche dealer at any point in time now/future. PCNA will give you a claim/service number for it to be done on your 914 in that case (I got one for my 73 914-2.0). You can find copies of the actual original recall documents here (as well as excellent 914 info throughout the site, & a PPI Assessment Form in tech docs for when you're ready to buy one): http://www.bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm Also good 914 info in general at: p914.com |
jjackson |
Apr 16 2011, 12:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 5-October 10 From: maumelle, arkansas Member No.: 12,246 Region Association: None |
With old fuel lines (Actually most of us changed to new ones) and possible gas leaks and fires that can happen rather too quickly its good to have one on hand just incase it ever happens. Most times you will never need it, but its nice to know you have one there.......AND they also look cool in your car if you want to score poser points or racer looks. I am trying to figure out some way to mount one in my own car right now. Personally I love the look of them and having the added security makes me feel at ease Not trying to steal a thread but it sure is damn good to see a post by you.JJackson |
Elliot Cannon |
Apr 16 2011, 01:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Reason number one to always carry a fire extinguisher in your car. (Any car).
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jt914-6 |
Apr 16 2011, 02:07 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
If you decide to get a extinguiser...get a FE-36 or Halon type....NOT the dry chemical type.....unless you don't mind cleaning up a huge mess....just sayin'....With no backpad mine is between the seats on firewall....
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iamchappy |
Apr 16 2011, 03:11 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Or better yet have both, a hand held and onboard system.....
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NJ914Guy |
Apr 16 2011, 03:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Deptford, NJ Member No.: 12,546 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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NJ914Guy |
Apr 16 2011, 03:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Deptford, NJ Member No.: 12,546 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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whatabout1 |
Apr 16 2011, 04:23 PM
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Toys in Red Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 6-March 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 5,676 Region Association: None |
I have one in every car I own ! Even the diesel truck. (Halon type)
Only used the 1 in the truck once and that was on some one elses car. (The be-uch didn't even offer to refill it or replace it after I saved her car !!!!) |
Black22 |
Apr 16 2011, 06:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Doesn't Halon eat through/ damage the Aluminum engine block? I know, I know...it's easier to get a new block than a new car, but isn't it true? Thought I've heard that before.
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patssle |
Apr 16 2011, 08:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
How well do extinguishers hold up to heat? Being in Texas and car outside, I'm sure with the top off and the sun beating down on the FE, it can get up there in temp. Will it be fine, no explodey mess? I'd rather leave it in the car than take it out every day.
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iamchappy |
Apr 16 2011, 09:53 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Here in Minnesota I need to remove my onboard AIFF system bottle to keep from freezing.
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detoxcowboy |
Apr 16 2011, 10:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
countless hours and money, it makes sense.. of all the problems you can fix does not matter when you watch it burn.. I do not mount it like I am ready and expecting it like morning cofee but I drop some coin on a nice one and it sits in the trunk.. best insurance.. e"every see a fireman take an axe to a gas tank.. they do. and I would hat eto see them try to guess where its at..
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Apr 16 2011, 10:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
A small bit of insurance that might make the difference between an annoying disablement and a heartbreaking inferno.
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Randal |
Apr 16 2011, 10:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Thanks for reminding me. Got to bolt mine back into 222. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 17 2011, 12:19 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
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mrbubblehead |
Apr 17 2011, 08:50 AM
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Twodollardoug Group: Members Posts: 1,155 Joined: 17-December 10 From: calimesa ca. Member No.: 12,492 Region Association: Southern California |
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seez52 |
May 13 2011, 08:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 26-March 11 From: TN Member No.: 12,855 Region Association: None |
I mounted one on the passenger side screwed into the center tunnel. It's halon, I find now that the guage shows just barely in the green so I guess it needs to be recharged. It's probably 15 -18 years old.
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