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> Fi Harness, Finished and its yellow so its faster
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post May 11 2004, 10:05 PM
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Just finshed the fi harness. Thanks to the board members who helped me find the factory connectors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)


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post May 12 2004, 09:27 AM
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Where did you find the connectors? And new rubber boots. I need a bunch of new boots. Looks good!
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post May 12 2004, 12:21 PM
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That looks great! Please tell us all about your technique and where the supplies are from.
Will the rest of the FI system be able to keep up with that fast yellow harness?
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post May 12 2004, 12:34 PM
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I await your answer with baited breasts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) My harness is a flexible and supple as great grandpa's back. AND it's not even yellow!!
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post May 12 2004, 12:44 PM
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Eagerly waiting to find out the source of those connectors and boots.

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post May 13 2004, 12:40 PM
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The silence here is deafening.

Me thinks we no gonna hear where to goodies came from. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post May 13 2004, 05:07 PM
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I am reluctant to because they could be the source of much controversy. Plus I don't know how many more I can get. I can tell you they came from Germany (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They boots were recycled from old harnesses.
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post May 13 2004, 05:30 PM
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So you come here to taunt us!! <_<

You first tell us
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Thanks to the board members who helped me find the factory connectors


And then you say you can't tell us. I'm only upset because I'm VERY jealous.

Maybe if the demand is high enough I could see about maybe having some of these manufactured by my father-in-law who is a injection molder/die maker. He's made some electrical connectors before, and can do rubber parts as well.

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post May 13 2004, 05:39 PM
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I am damned if I do Damned if I don't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 13 2004, 05:42 PM
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I bought some boots a few years ago from Automobile Atlanta. The came in a bag with a Mercedes Benz part #. Early Volvos also use the same boots.
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post May 13 2004, 07:03 PM
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Cut Dylan a break guys, pretty sure he was told by a supplier in confidence where to source the parts, with the condition that he not divulge the source. The said supplier most likely spent major time, research and cash to find this source. Dylan is most likely now sorry he posted this.

Also this stuff is no good to you without the proper tools. Dylan works for an aviation company and that’s why he could do this job.
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post May 13 2004, 07:13 PM
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No hard feelings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I and others were just excited at the prospect of finding a source of these. It seems though that the supply must be very small and knowledge of where to get them is obviously proprietary to someone who can make money from that information, which as you've said took a lot of effort to obtain.

I'm sure there are more than a few here (like myself) who also work at aerospace companies and have access to the proper crimping tools, shrink tubing, teflon wire, maybe silicone wire, epoxies and the like that are necessary to build truly durable wiring harnesses.


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p.s. F4i, the harness looks awesome!!
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post May 13 2004, 07:55 PM
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No hard feelings here. And thanks for the compliments. I posted here before about getting connectors. The reply that netted me the parts was made privately. I fully respect other peoples privacy. If they wanted it public they would have made it so. There is a board member that makes harnesses. I am not looking to compete with them either. I am sure there are others that are more than capable of fabricating these harnesses. I did use mil spec wire etc. however it could be done other ways. Good luck guys.


PS thanks Mark H GO FLAMES GO
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post May 14 2004, 08:43 AM
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Jeff Bowlsby rebuilds and repairs harnesses, in addition to selling new ones. The materials he uses are either OEM or are superior. If you have a harness that needs a new connector or boot, try contacting him at bowlsby@aol.com
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post May 14 2004, 09:32 AM
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What material did you use for the sheath?
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post May 14 2004, 06:00 PM
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Bowlsby will not sell just parts, they only come with his services. I have heard that his work is excellent however. I used a high quality heatshrink as a sheath.
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post May 14 2004, 06:42 PM
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Is the heatshrink still flexible even after it's "shrunk"?

Most heatshrink I have used gets hard to bend after it cools off. Maybe certain kinds don't?
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post May 14 2004, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(jkeyzer @ May 14 2004, 05:42 PM)
Is the heatshrink still flexible even after it's "shrunk"?

Most heatshrink I have used gets hard to bend after it cools off. Maybe certain kinds don't?

It stays very pliable. It boasts an operating temp. of -55 to 125 deg. c. I didn't even know that until you asked.
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post May 14 2004, 08:15 PM
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Nice harness, but I thougt orange was faster! At anyrate, check old VW FI cars, they have same kinds of connectors, fast backs, squarebacks, busses, are a bit more common than 914s at wreckers. The rubber boots on a watercooled vangon will even work on some connectors, and they are at least on or two decades newer than the squarebacks, so the rubber will not be as rotted.

One thing I noted on many harnesses is that some parts of the harness over the engine are much more brittle, and blackened than others, seems it has to do with proximity to the hot engine case. originally the harness was routed tightly aginst the case were it passes around the rear (flywheel side of engine, and forward towards the dizzie). I have rerouted the harness so it stands off the hotter engine case, and now rests as much as possible on the cooler cooling tin pieces. I think this will add some life to the harness, new or old.
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post May 14 2004, 08:17 PM
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I have been thinking of using nylon expandable mesh to shield my new wiring harness. I wonder how well it would work?
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