Its official, I'm white trash!!!, Vehicle abatement complaints/ideas Options

[Dr Evil]

I just got a love letter from the Vehicle Abatement department telling me officially that I am taking to damn long on my project. I guess tha the site of a car on jackstands with its ass up in the air and an engine on a board under it has finaly drawn some unwanted attentoin. It never fails! I just got my oil tank for my conversion and I can start in 3 weeks. The funny thing is that they didnt say anything about the 2 dissassembled porsches that were with in 6 feet of my car but were covered. I took my car down, changed the position a little, put a new cover on it, and put the engine in my shack. I figure that if they didn't bitch about the others then this should suffice.

What do you all think? It is in a gated, locked back yard and they would have to cut the lock and come in to check which one is which. I hope that this is enough. I may put some plastic stuff on my fence so no one can look inside except my neighbor to the side upstars.
Argggghhhh, I don't have time for this crap! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[skline]

Well, Mike, I guessyou could always try putting the car together and driving it around. I guess I have just been lucky, Costa Mesa is usually really strict about stuff like that. It usually only happens if you piss off a neighbor. I try to be nice with the neighbors and not start the car after about sundown and never before like 9 AM on weekends. I can work on stuff inside that is quiet until then. So far, so good. I think I will go knock on some wood. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

[GWN7]

go to the local carpet store and get some "SmoothEdge"..."E" type.......it's the strips of wood that is used to hold down carpet. Nail it to the top of the fence. When the nosey inspector or anyone else who wants to look in your yard trys to pull themselfs up to have a look, they will leave a DNA sample for you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[machina]

I got a code violation for my race car trailer in the driveway. Had to move it. They never complained about anything else though, even when the parts car sat outside for months.

dr

[Bruce Allert]

I bought a small house & 4 acres way the F*K up in the mountains on a lake. It's a small housing settelment around the lake. The nearest town is 20 miles down kissyerass corners all the way & takes a "normal" driven car 40 minutes to get there. (Nice for a teener) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif)
My beotch was the damn gestapo tactics the local "council" used to tell me what color it had to be, what kind of windows had to go in, color of metal roof, had to have an "ok" to tear out the rotten fallen in deck & replace it with a concrete slab. It went on & on. This house sat empty & unfinished since 1980, an eyesore to the rest of the community on the lake & they were pushin their weight around makin it hard on me to beautify this weed infested rat trap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)

The next "get away" I buy will be totally away from anyone within eyesight of any window (godambastards). & I'll park as many parts cars around it that I want (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/givemebeer.gif) cuz I need one now

rant over (for awhile)

.....b

P.s. since I finished its remodel its value assesed at twice what I paid & pissed of the local realtor! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

[dmenche914]

Thats the danger of leftist socialist pigs, they think they own your property.

One little trick to keep the government off your property is this, and it worked for me, got it off the internet.

Make a sign, must be of minimum one foot square to be legal, and must have to be legal a minimum of two inch high letters stating;

"TRESSPASSING FORBIDDEN BY LAW"

Under that in smaller letters you can write things like:

" This applies to all local, state and federal officails, including code enforcers. penalty is $5000 per person per day."

The sign must be posted at each corner of your property (unless you have a big lot, you may need some along the property line) and adjacent to your enterance (driveway).

I got all the legal details off the net, doing a seach for No tresspasing sign law for California.

This is all real legal stuff, it is in the state law. if they violate your PROPERLY MADE UP signs, you can fine them, ($5000 per person per day) and take legal action, that will be up held in court!

Please look up the exact details, as it has been a while. It is important to make the sign as per the law, if letters are two small, or sign not big enough, or not enough signs posted for your sized lot, then it is not valid.

I had the inspector going thru fits trying to figure out how to get on my property after my signs went up. (he would not set foot on it!) It turns out these stupid socialists who do not believe you have any property rights, are really a bunch of chicken shits, and they usally go away whining to their superiors (which ain't all that difficult, seeing as they are inferior) There superiors are not much better either. Same liberal crowd that believes the community has rights to your land.

What likely did you in was a complaint, you nailed it, someone did not like the car on stands with the motor exposed, it will get you every time. Dropping the car, and covering it might do the trick, but post the signs to keep them no good liberal busy body bastard inspectors off of you land if they insist on harrassing you.
(If they leave you alone now that the car is down, and covered, do not post the signs, unless you want a good fight which depending on you might just be worth it)

There is also a group that helped me many years ago. It was called CARZ for Citizens Aginst Repressive Zoning. They gave advice on zoning issues like you have, main emphasis on car hobbiest like us, They may still have aweb page, so check them out.


I wish you best of luck. When it is time for local elections, state elections, federal elections, only vote for those that will uphold property rights, for without the right to property, there are few other rights left. If you cannot enjoy the fruits of your labour, or luck, then it is slavery. When land grabbing initiatives come around, defete them in the ballot box.

If they try to take your property (which included loss of use of your property) kindly offer them hell, cause that's all they deserve.

We had a bunch of jackasses that tried to ban working on cars, boats, rv'S, suv's, Work trucks, and even clothes lines if they can be seen over a fence (and no fence over six feet (hope your nieghbors are short!) We got a petition going, filled city hall during council meetings, and got the two main perpertrators unelected. That took care of the problem for now.

best of luck man, fight the good fight. Jee wiz I sure hate them types, including your nasty neighbor or whom ever reported you. (who doesn't have the balls to complain directly to you. I am sure the complaint is anominus, cause that is the only whay them bastard enforcers can keep their sucky jobs, to get more complaints, and the only way to do that is to give the complainer a chickshit way to hide.)

[campbellcj]

What about putting up a canopy or one of those "instant carport" kind of things?

FWIW it is easy to see both sides of the equation...I mean if you were on the market shopping for a "typical" $800K SoCal house these days, would you want to see big oil stains and rusted 914 parts out in the driveway next door? Would you want the bank appraiser or insurance inspector or business clients to see that?

Not really; as I think most of us would have to agree, even as 914 die-hards.

Of course on the other hand I totally agree that 80% of this is BS and when the gub'mint or CCR's or HA's tell us that we can't tune our own Webers in our own effin' garages on a sunny Saturday morning...they can stuff it in The Dark Place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pissoff.gif)

[Red-Beard]

FWIW it is easy to see both sides of the equation...I mean if you were on the market shopping for a "typical" $800K SoCal house these days, would you want to see big oil stains and rusted 914 parts out in the driveway next door? Would you want the bank appraiser or insurance inspector or business clients to see that?

Well, the rusted cars and oil stains aren't as back as the meth labs.

$800K and you may be living next to a meth lab. Only in California....

[scotty]

$800K and you may be living next to a meth lab.

What...they're not outsourcing the production south of the border? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[campbellcj]

$800K and you may be living next to a meth lab.

What...they're not outsourcing the production south of the border? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Nah...they're just outsourcing meth production to East-County San Diego (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Here in LA, we just have the $750K homes with bars on the windows and next door to the gang bangers shooting their Glocks at passing cars from their front porch...

So please don't move here, it's clearly not safe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dmenche914]

true, someone with a $800k house may not like to see your house, and your toys, but damnit, what about your own $800k house. You pay $800K and some jackass wants to prevent you from enjoying it for your legal hobby, what's with that? it is a mater of taste, and taste should end at the property line, period. Sure there is zoning to prevent strip mines from opening up in a residential area, but that is not the same as these life style disputes. ( a mine would have issues with noise, dust fumes,, run off etc... that extend beyond its own property line) If you do not like it, close the drapes ( and i do not care what color your window coverings are, frankly a bit of varity is ok by me) To me a nighborhood of boats in the driveway means it must be a good nieghborhood as the owners must be affluent to afford a boat. A project car means the person at that house probably has the tools, and know how to help his/her nieghbors with any mechanical problems in the home or car, nice to have a nieghbor like that!

yes there are times when code enforcement is required, say rats nesting in an old junk car. The thing that makes this different is rats carry sicknesses that can cross property lines. if the old junk car has no rats, than let it be, it is my nieghbors choice to live as he/she wishes, and if it does not harm me (and no one can claimed to be harmed by different tastes) then let it go, just make your house as pretty as you want. frankly i hate developements with all earthtone painted houses, plain drapes, and perfect lawns, i just hate it, it ain't my taste, I prefer rustic however I would not try to change their house to suit my tastes. the real problem is when the city tries to make new rules on existing owners. i purchased this knowing what i got into, it is the way i want to live, and do not change it. You want a gated community with lots of rules, you go find one.

. In my nieghborhood (built in the early 1950's) there were no such rules. What happened is a few goody goody nosey people (including a realestate agent on the city council) tried to make new rules for all of us to follow. Funny I did see them rules anyplace when I purchased my castle. I choose where i wanted to live, and part of that choise is that my nieghborhood is full of trailers, boats, project cars and such. I'll be damned if I am going to let them change the rules on me.

the latest thing the socialists are doing is condeming private property for "better use for the community" that has included many blocks of modest residential homes being comdemed for things like shopping centers. Now i can see it if a highway needs to be built, that is allowed under law for the public good, but a private shopping center, that will make the developers money, get real. The liberal socialists say the shopping center if for the public good, as it increases tax revenue for the county! can you believe that. Your home can be comdemmed cause it does not generate enought tax revenue. (now if the shopping mall developer wants to buy your house, thats different, as you could always refuse to sell, but the developer gets the city behind it, and the city condems you, so you MUST sell, and at their price, not yours).

watch out, the next thing these land grabbers will try is give you the smart growth crap, how we all should live in high rise condos, next to "transist hubs" (ie light rail and busses) so your nieghborhood is condemmed to build the smart growth community. That is what the are tring to do to a downtown area near me. it is all one or two story bussiness, bussiness that the fluffy city council real estate agent types do not think is good enough. this area has amoung other things undesirable shops such as body shops, tire stores, autoparts stores, things I like. The city in their infinate wisdom thinks a better public use of this private land is to get with a big fat developer (which will grease the re-election rails for the officails that follow along) that wants to build a smart growth community of high rise condos, "butique" shops, coffee bars and crap like that. they got the city to comdem vast blocks of good long standing bussiness, and give them to the developer, who of course must supply the right number of "affordable units" (ie subsidized) (sounds like a commie pinko plot to me).

The city of course will wave the new devoplement of the normal requirements for the number of parking spots, after all it is a smart growth transist freindly city. This means a lack of parking will result, but no problem, add parking meters to fix the parking problem ( problem they created, yet they profit from.) Not only that, add 3000 new condo units were there were none, but do not widen the roads, or over passes (in the past developers were required to provide inceases in roads) afterall, all 3000 residents (more like 6000) will ride their bike, or take the bus, right??? this leads to gridlock on the existing roads, that the longtime residents have been paying for. So the city lets the problem, become a big problem, which could have been averted if they required the developer to add new roads, but that will not happen, they are in bed with them) Anyway, the traffic becomes so bad, they (the government) will save the day, by increasing taxes to pay for new roads, but only after it becomes a big problem for years, and only after they spend many times more YOUR money on failed transit projects (busses, train, ferry), more of your money down the tubes. But of course, 'they' do not believe in property rights, so it isn't really your money anyway now is it?

Ah yes the utopia of urban planning, and smart growth, ran by selfless politicians who care nothing but for the greater good, sounds like something Stalin would be proud of.

Beware, they are gaining in popularity, many that run for city or county councils have little respect for our Constitution and Bill of Rights, they serve to futher their own agendas without regard to our fundimental right of property. Local elections are the ones that can effect us the most. Vote only for leaders that respect all of our rights. it is shameful what these crooks have done in some cities. if only they would respect property rights, many of the problems could be avoided.

How is it any different for a neighbor to say i do not like the hobbies you have, the way you have vactions in a boat or RV, or your style of landscaping, the social class you are in, verses a person that does not like your race, or religion, or such???? You see here how the loss of property rights, can lead to a host of other rights lost