 picked up the car from the shop, it runs like crap ! |
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| rfuerst911sc |
 Jun 11 2011, 07:23 AM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States  |
Had the 914 at a local shop for a week to have the following done.
1.Replace alternator it was putting out zero voltage. 2.Install new plug wires. 3.Adjust valves 4.Repair wiring to oil pressure gauge That was pretty much the list there were a few other small issues. Car ran good when dropped off. The shop decided to drop the engine to do the alternator replacement and valve adjustment. All the items on the list were repaired but when I went to pick up the car it ran like crap. I called the mechanic over and we pulled the idle jets on the Weber carbs ( engine is a 3.0 ) and a couple of them had junk or what looked like yellow paint flecks in them. We cleaned them out and reinstalled with new o-rings and ran a little bit better but still like crap. I had to get the car home so I limped it home. I stopped for fresh gas and that didn't help. Fuel tank was pulled last year while I was completing the restoration and cleaned. I cleaned it not a pro. It was clean looking with minimal rust inside and a new fuel tank sleeve filter was installed on the outlet nipple. New SS fuel line from tank to engine bay with all brand new rubber connecting lines. New fuel pump with new fuel filter before the pump and a new fuel filter in the engine bay. I do not have fuel filters right before the carb's. I know carb's are finicky when it comes to dirt,dust or foreign objects so it appears I need to clean all jets. Does this sound like the right way to go ? Should I install a fuel filter at each carb ? I'm hoping this is all it is and I can get away with just cleaning the jets but what if the goop,gunk is IN the carb bodies ? I plan on converting this engine to EFI but need to get it running properly for the rest of the summer. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 14 2011, 04:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
Loaded the car on the trailer today after work and dropped it off to the shop. Had a good chat with the mechanic and made it clear don't call me until she runs like it should. We'll see.
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| Hammy |
Jun 14 2011, 11:34 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Jun 14 2011, 03:10 PM)  Loaded the car on the trailer today after work and dropped it off to the shop. Had a good chat with the mechanic and made it clear don't call me until she runs like it should. We'll see. Good move. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jun 15 2011, 06:33 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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If it's a 3.0, you could have a bad distributor lead, also known as the "green wire".
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 15 2011, 09:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(9146986 @ Jun 15 2011, 04:33 AM) If it's a 3.0, you could have a bad distributor lead, also known as the "green wire". Green wire was replaced by Jerry Woods last year when I sent him the distributor for a full rebuild. So I don't think it is that but who knows. We'll see what the shop comes up with. |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 15 2011, 04:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
Received an email at work today from the shop. They spent two hours tuning the car ( mostly carbs ) and was told it is running great. The exact words were " near perfection ". It apparently is pulling so strong that on the test drive the drivers axle broke at the transmission side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Hopefully picking up the car tomorrow. No mention of $$$ yet.
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| barada |
Jun 15 2011, 07:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 5-October 08 From: Atlanta Member No.: 9,613 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Jun 15 2011, 06:53 PM) Received an email at work today from the shop. They spent two hours tuning the car ( mostly carbs ) and was told it is running great. The exact words were " near perfection ". It apparently is pulling so strong that on the test drive the drivers axle broke at the transmission side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Hopefully picking up the car tomorrow. No mention of $$$ yet. What shop is this? You can PM me if you want. Phillip |
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| r_towle |
Jun 15 2011, 07:35 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,576 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Jun 15 2011, 06:53 PM) Received an email at work today from the shop. They spent two hours tuning the car ( mostly carbs ) and was told it is running great. The exact words were " near perfection ". It apparently is pulling so strong that on the test drive the drivers axle broke at the transmission side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Hopefully picking up the car tomorrow. No mention of $$$ yet. That is one of those good new bad news emails. Glad to hear it was simple tuning. rich |
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| chrispy |
Jun 15 2011, 10:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 5-May 09 From: modesto, ca Member No.: 10,337 Region Association: None |
When an axle breaks on a test drive...is that the testers problem?????
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| drive-ability |
Jun 15 2011, 11:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
Sorry but I can see them now test driving the car. Red-line and hammering the clutch. Braking parts during a test drive sounds real bad to me. You know there not being paid any more here. The tech surely pushed the car hard, rev-tuning only brakes things. I would get it back and if it runs poor take it to someone who knows what there doing. Sorry for your trouble for sure ! Afterward small claims court. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) They can be nice guys with a ton of initiative but if they don't have the correct training or experience the result will not change.
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| J P Stein |
Jun 16 2011, 07:15 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
There is no reason to pound on a car to find if it is running properly. The breakage is probably a CV....they go long before an axle. Just be thankful it wasn't the cantilevered first gear. If the fix is not free, find another shop.....come to think of it, find another shop anyway. |
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| RFoulds |
Jun 16 2011, 10:48 AM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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You obviously don't want toflame this shop here in this forum but, come on! You have to tell us who you are dealing with! this is getting scarey!!
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 16 2011, 11:48 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
The car is done and I'm picking it up after work. Supposedly running great. They are not charging me for the 2 hours of tuning because they admit they never should have handed over the car running like it was. They are however charging me $396.97 for a new axle. I mis-spoke when I said the axle broke it was in fact the CV joint. For all I know it was on the verge of breaking OR they did it but without proof who knows. If the car truly runs good I'll walk away as this being another learning experience.
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| RFoulds |
Jun 16 2011, 11:53 AM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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A suggestion. Take it for a drive, WITH the tech who worked on it, BEFORE you pay.
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| thelogo |
Jun 16 2011, 01:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
dishonest shops suck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) but if your in marrieta . georgia , [as listed under your location avatar [ then why are you not taking it to " 914 disneyland ." auto atlanta IIRC they work on vw/ porsche there ? ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) not that i take my own advice , i'm less then 20 miles from ottos in venice and tre motorsports van nuys , and I take my stock 73 to a sandrail / vw / river rat place where they have a single port 35hp motor cut in half on displays but whom ever's the most honest right ! |
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| KELTY360 |
Jun 16 2011, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 16 2011, 12:12 PM) then why are you not taking it to " 914 disneyland ." auto atlanta Yeah, you could have mickey mouse or goofy work on it. |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 16 2011, 06:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(barada @ Jun 15 2011, 05:04 PM) QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Jun 15 2011, 06:53 PM) Received an email at work today from the shop. They spent two hours tuning the car ( mostly carbs ) and was told it is running great. The exact words were " near perfection ". It apparently is pulling so strong that on the test drive the drivers axle broke at the transmission side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Hopefully picking up the car tomorrow. No mention of $$$ yet. What shop is this? You can PM me if you want. Phillip PM sent. |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 16 2011, 06:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
Well the saga is over. I went to pick up the car after work. I walked up to the car and looked it over REAL good just to make sure it was clean and no damage. Looked under the car and a new axle was installed. Car was clean. I then walked up to the head mechanic and asked for them to start the car for me. They obliged and came out to start the car.........no dice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . WTF ????? Then one of the mechanics stated they left the car outside last night and we had one hell of a rain storm so my K&N billet carb housings did little to stop water from getting into the carbs. So they pulled all six plugs and turned the car over for a few seconds to pump out the water. Installed the plugs and she fired right up. Ran rough for a few minutes but as it warmed up and water was displaced it ran better. I took it for a test drive and after the motor was warm got on it pretty hard and she pulled fine. Still had a few pops and spits on the drive home but nothing I can't handle. I was not happy they left the car outside but to be honest I did ask before bringing my car over if they had indoor storage and was told no so I knew better. I payed for the axle replacement and went on my way. They did bring me the broken axle cage assembly to see that it just came apart. The mechanic that had the axle cage snap on him during the test ride said he was just making a turn with the clutch in, let the clutch out and got on the gas and she just snapped. Both mechanics apologized several times for the inconvenience they caused me. I will continue to look for another shop because even though I am a DIYer there are times I either don't have time or I just don't want to do the job so I need to find someone I can trust. I'm not into public bashing so I'm done with this story. Thanks to all for your suggestions.
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| messix |
Jun 16 2011, 07:35 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
change your oil now!!!!!!
if water blew out of the cylinders its in tha crank case and has contaminated the oil |
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| Drums66 |
Jun 17 2011, 02:31 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(RFoulds @ Jun 16 2011, 10:53 AM) A suggestion. Take it for a drive, WITH the tech who worked on it, BEFORE you pay. ......Ya dig!!!.....you deserve to be satisfied (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| Drums66 |
Jun 17 2011, 02:31 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(RFoulds @ Jun 16 2011, 10:53 AM) A suggestion. Take it for a drive, WITH the tech who worked on it, BEFORE you pay. ......Ya dig!!!.....you deserve to be satisfied (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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