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jim_hoyland |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Any particular reason the clutch cable would unravel at the top of the roller ? Should the roller spin freely when reasembled ?
A few pics of what I'm looking at... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached image(s) ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Cause thats where it makes a U-turn. Yes, the roller should be free. 914 rubber makes new delrin ones.
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Yep, that's where the most load is on the cable.
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914 Rudiments ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
.....Defective cable(clutch) & yes it should roll with freedom! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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It Looks Better In Person. . . ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 17-September 03 From: Carlsbad, CA Member No.: 1,170 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
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I bought my 914 in 1975. Within 2 years after that, my clutch cable failed at the cable pulley. I thought that keeping it clean would prevent a build-up of grime, which would abrade the cable and pulley. After that failure, with a new cable in place, I coated the pulley, cable and mounting point with a liberal application of white grease. Every year or two, I clean the old grease off, run a few pipe cleaners around the pulley groove and slather the assembly with another coat of white grease. I have not had a cable failure since 1977.
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
You can go to Fatzer Cable and download Guidelines for Rope Maintenance. It is for ski lift cables but the same holds true for smaller cables.
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jim_hoyland |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I bought my 914 in 1975. Within 2 years after that, my clutch cable failed at the cable pulley. I thought that keeping it clean would prevent a build-up of grime, which would abrade the cable and pulley. After that failure, with a new cable in place, I coated the pulley, cable and mounting point with a liberal application of white grease. Every year or two, I clean the old grease off, run a few pipe cleaners around the pulley groove and slather the assembly with another coat of white grease. I have not had a cable failure since 1977. Paul Great suggestion ! And easy enought to do. Went to the Fatzer Cable web site and it backs up what you stated. Thanks to both Pauls for the heads up. Wish there was a little more room in the forward inspection hole to grab that Clevis pin... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,884 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Jim - Unless you set it aside before snapping the pic, it looks like you're missing the metal sleeve the goes in between the roller and the stud in the console (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
I bought one of those '914 Rubber.com' Delrin rollers from Glenn Sager at the most recent All Porsche Swap Meet ... it's nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Jim - Unless you set it aside before snapping the pic, it looks like you're missing the metal sleeve the goes in between the roller and the stud in the console (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I bought one of those '914 Rubber.com' Delrin rollers from Glenn Sager at the most recent All Porsche Swap Meet ... it's nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks Mark, I had the bushing set aside at the time of the pic. Upon closer inspection of the wire where it partially broke and unraveled; it appears that there was a serious amount of grit between the wires and around the roller. Seems like the assembly would benefit from being enclosed in a rubber boot of some type. Went over and looked at another 914's roller this am and found serious build up of oily dirt. This is definately a part to regulary inspect and clean. |
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Yup, good diagnosis and suggestions by all. I'd like to point out that braided brake lines can suffer the same end although slower. Bunch of wires all braided up catching dirt. Check them regularly.
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I just replaced my clutch cable after seeing the frayed bits sticking out at the roller. When I took it off, it was actually WORSE at the end just inside the housing. The cable bits broke at the friction point where the housing ends in a metal circle and were lumped up inside the housing, out of sight completely.
So, if you see any cable fray at all it is worth a closer look or quick replacement. I went with the Terry Cable version. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I just replaced my clutch cable after seeing the frayed bits sticking out at the roller. When I took it off, it was actually WORSE at the end just inside the housing. The cable bits broke at the friction point where the housing ends in a metal circle and were lumped up inside the housing, out of sight completely. So, if you see any cable fray at all it is worth a closer look or quick replacement. I went with the Terry Cable version. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Exactly same place where mine frayed and broke. Did you find foreign material in the wire too ? Seems like a boot could really protect this area----anyone seen one ? |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Jim - Unless you set it aside before snapping the pic, it looks like you're missing the metal sleeve the goes in between the roller and the stud in the console (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I bought one of those '914 Rubber.com' Delrin rollers from Glenn Sager at the most recent All Porsche Swap Meet ... it's nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks Mark, I had the bushing set aside at the time of the pic. Upon closer inspection of the wire where it partially broke and unraveled; it appears that there was a serious amount of grit between the wires and around the roller. Seems like the assembly would benefit from being enclosed in a rubber boot of some type. Went over and looked at another 914's roller this am and found serious build up of oily dirt. This is definately a part to regulary inspect and clean. Maybe you should try cleaning that car once in awhile. Sheesh!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,090 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Seems like a boot could really protect this area----anyone seen one ? Originally there was a boot that goes on the end of the clutch cable where it mounts to the pulley bracket. It is seals the cable to the housing to keep dirt from inside the cable housing. A PITA to get over the threaded end of the cable. Jim |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Seems like a boot could really protect this area----anyone seen one ? Originally there was a boot that goes on the end of the clutch cable where it mounts to the pulley bracket. It is seals the cable to the housing to keep dirt from inside the cable housing. A PITA to get over the threaded end of the cable. Jim Anyone have a picture ? |
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Did you find foreign material in the wire too ? [/quote] Yes, but then again, my entire 914 is composed of foreign material. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I need das boot! Show us the proof. I could use an upgrade over the zip-tie on there now. The zip tie holds the cable onto the metal mount due to my "extreme" driving! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 ![]() |
[quote name='ChrisNPDrider' date='Sep 22 2011, 11:36 AM' post='1542795']
[/quote] Did you find foreign material in the wire too ? [/quote] Yes, but then again, my entire 914 is composed of foreign material. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I need das boot! Show us the proof. [/quote] Is this the boot to which you are referring? If it is, it will hardly protect/lubricate the cable that is routed around the white pulley. BTW, ignore the lack of white grease in this photo. Rest assured, there IS grease smothering that area now. Paul Attached image(s) ![]() |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,688 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE Is this the boot to which you are referring? If it is, it will hardly protect/lubricate the cable that is routed around the white pulley. BTW, ignore the lack of white grease in this photo. Rest assured, there IS grease smothering that area now. Paul No, I was thinking of a boot that would cover the entire assembly; from what I can tell, none was made. But, one could be made.... The http://www.fatzer.com/contento/enUS/Home/D...US/Default.aspx web site has some good tips on lubricating wire rope. |
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,884 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
In addition to a boot (bellows) being a good idea, while I was helping Kapt Kaos inspect and reinstall a clutch cable last Tuesday evening, I noticed that he had a retaining ring that secures the cable sheath to the pulley housing (a washer with a tab sticking out on one side that bends into the hole on the side of the housing). I had never seen one of those before.
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