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| Qarl |
 Jul 19 2004, 09:48 AM
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Shriveled member  Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None   |
Hey Admins...
Not that I am ungrateful or anything... but it takes 17-20 seconds to get to the 914club website now (timed from clicking the link in my Favorites toolbar) to when stuff starts to pop up. Clicking on the button to post a new topic takes 8-12 seconds to pop up. This is true for my PC at home and for my PC at work (different ISPs). Home is a cable modem and work is a high-speed DSL. I thought maybe it had something to do with the Mozilla browser vs. IE, but no difference from either browser or from any other PC in my office. What gives? Seems like something has changed and is causing the webserver to do something it didn't use to do. |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2004, 05:46 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(kwales @ Jul 19 2004, 04:00 PM) At home I link thru AOL, and it's freekin fast on a dialup.... well, compared to work its lightning. Shop Talk forums loads fast at work so what's the diff? well, that's good news as it means it's NOT the BBS that is slow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) it also means that "Shop Talk forums" is not hosted on our servers therefore you get a different route. seems like there are some routers overloaded on the way to the BBS ... our server itself is fine, it's fast for me which means it's up & running OK. we don't have any control over how you're routed to the BBS server. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Andy |
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| Qarl |
Jul 19 2004, 05:51 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
Here are some more questions...
Could it be browser related? (meaning, I'm not sure if he is using AOL's browser, vs. Internet Explorer or Mozilla). The reason I started the thread is that the board was always fast until recently (past 2 weeks or so). Nothing changed on my end (hardware wise, or software wise). I do note this... I can get to the www.914world.com main page really fast when I type it into the address bar. When I can click BBS, and it appears to jump fast. Then when I click the Technical forum (it slooooooowwws down). On my PC, I have my browser to default directly into the technical BBS forum when I open it up. This is where the delay occurs? So explain, that? |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2004, 05:58 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(kellzey @ Jul 19 2004, 04:51 PM) So explain, that? easy ... you don't have to change anything on your computer to get a slower connection. as i said, you're going over 20 hops, if only one of them has developed a problem within the last 2 weeks, you'll notice because it'll load slower. - why is the homepage still fast? because it doesn't have sh*t on it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) the technical forum pages are all dynamically created from a database. LOTS of data is transmitted for those pages, a small delay on one of the hops will mulitply very fast into a BIG delay for a whole page. - could it be a browser problem? maybe, have you tried to delete your browser cache, including cookies? i'm running IE6 and i'm 14 hops away and the BBS is flying for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) Andy |
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| Qarl |
Jul 19 2004, 06:18 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
It probably has to do with size and number of users on the board then... and the size of the database. Maybe too many pictures of Zois' ass in the archives!
When I set my link to the classifieds, it works really quick. I still think something changed... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) I am also wondering, since "others" have confirmed lately that the board seems slow to them too. But as I stated on my first post, I'm not ungrateful. Maybe 914club is just too popular. Have you considered an IPO? |
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 19 2004, 06:24 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
after a while of comparitively little virus traffic i've been hit with a few dozen today; i think there's some new strain out there and the servers are having to cope with a new big glut of malware traffic...
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| seanery |
Jul 19 2004, 06:39 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
hey guys, how do I do a trace?
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| tommy914 |
Jul 19 2004, 06:42 PM
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Life is a journey, enjoy every turn. Group: Members Posts: 1,103 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Ridgeland, MS Member No.: 1,165 Region Association: None |
Here's my tracert from Mississippi
1 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 10.74.192.1 2 10 ms 11 ms 9 ms pos3-0.jcsnms-rtr2-jam.rr.com [24.164.192.17] 3 52 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos0-3.jcsnms-rtr2-jam.rr.com [24.164.192.29] 4 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms srp0-0.hstntxtid-rtr3.houston.rr.com [24.93.33.88] 5 132 ms 60 ms 19 ms son0-0-3.hstqtxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.33.161] 6 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms pop1-hou-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.133.153] 7 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms bb1-hou-P2-0.atdn.net [66.185.150.148] 8 25 ms 25 ms 27 ms bb1-dls-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.132] 9 61 ms 32 ms 74 ms pop1-dls-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.133.81] 10 33 ms 25 ms 24 ms so-6-2-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net [209.249.119.229] 11 68 ms 68 ms 190 ms so-4-0-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.29.53] 12 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms pos6-0.mpr2.pao1.us.above.net [64.125.29.162] 13 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms above-gw.optigate.net [64.124.11.205] 14 114 ms 101 ms 69 ms sfo-cr1.paix-pr1.optigate.net [209.17.65.54] 15 70 ms 81 ms 70 ms novani.sfo-cr1.optigate.net [209.17.64.166] 16 69 ms 70 ms 70 ms 64.237.0.250 17 69 ms 70 ms 70 ms www.914world.com [66.250.97.205] |
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| seanery |
Jul 19 2004, 06:52 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
ok, figured it out:
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2004, 07:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(tommy914 @ Jul 19 2004, 05:42 PM) Here's my tracert from Mississippi you also got a abovenet bottleneck: 11: 68 ms 68 ms 190 ms so-4-0-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.29.53] seems like those guys have some faulty hardware ... <_< Andy |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2004, 07:01 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(seanery @ Jul 19 2004, 05:52 PM) ok, figured it out: same for you, hop 17, abovenet gateway ... that has to be part of the reason why so many people see delays, this seems to be a major hop to get over here to the west-coast and it seems overloaded ... Andy |
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| tommy914 |
Jul 20 2004, 05:42 PM
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Life is a journey, enjoy every turn. Group: Members Posts: 1,103 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Ridgeland, MS Member No.: 1,165 Region Association: None |
Anyone know of a way to contact above.net?
This is killing me. I may have to find a new hobbie. |
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| sechszylinder |
Jul 21 2004, 09:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None 
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hi folks,
look at this from germany -> Tracing route to www.914world.com [66.250.97.205] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms bs3comsw9a.HHI.DE [172.19.0.1] 2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.65.1 3 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms gateintern.HHI.DE [172.16.0.20] 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms tugate.HHI.DE [193.174.67.1] 6 * 5 ms 5 ms ssr8-EN.gate.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.0.21] 7 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms ssr8pos-EN.gate.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.0.13] 8 5 ms 7 ms 6 ms ar-tuberlin1.g-win.dfn.de [188.1.33.65] 9 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms cr-berlin1-po4-1.g-win.dfn.de [188.1.20.9] 10 24 ms 16 ms 14 ms cr-frankfurt1-po9-2.g-win.dfn.de [188.1.18.185] 11 35 ms 14 ms 14 ms ir-frankfurt2-po4-0.g-win.dfn.de [188.1.80.46] 12 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms ge9-0.pr1.fra1.de.above.net [216.200.116.97] 13 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms so-0-1-0.cr1.fra1.de.above.net [216.200.116.213] 14 20 ms 16 ms 17 ms 216.200.115.254.reverse.not.updated.above.net [2 16.200.115.254] 15 34 ms 38 ms 32 ms so-4-2-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.29.77] 16 104 ms 103 ms 104 ms so-7-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.31.186] 17 * 105 ms 103 ms so-0-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.122] 18 132 ms 131 ms 133 ms so-2-2-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.29.9] 19 132 ms 132 ms 131 ms so-0-0-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.209] 20 176 ms 175 ms 177 ms so-4-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.29.57] 21 176 ms 176 ms 176 ms pos6-0.mpr2.pao1.us.above.net [64.125.29.162] 22 176 ms 176 ms 176 ms above-gw.optigate.net [64.124.11.205] 23 182 ms 180 ms 181 ms sfo-cr1.paix-pr1.optigate.net [209.17.65.54] 24 177 ms 180 ms 177 ms novani.sfo-cr1.optigate.net [209.17.64.166] 25 180 ms 177 ms 178 ms 64.237.0.250 26 178 ms 179 ms 179 ms www.914world.com [66.250.97.205] Trace complete. and we have now 17:00 CET ... you folks have a real slow network right now !!! ciao ... Benno |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 21 2004, 10:26 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Jul 21 2004, 08:09 AM) 15: 34 ms 38 ms 32 ms so-4-2-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.29.77] 16: 104 ms 103 ms 104 ms so-7-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.31.186] 17: * 105 ms 103 ms so-0-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.122] outsch! those guys have some serious trouble ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Andy |
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| Qarl |
Jul 21 2004, 10:45 AM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
So how do we get them to fix it?
Send Andy over to yell at them? |
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| jandro62 |
Jul 21 2004, 12:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Texas Member No.: 2,156 |
My first slow hop, #12 which is my second of 3 abovenet hops is where my slowdown is coming out of TX, at 59ms. Is it also possible that there was another route previously open to the west coast besides abovenet that is no longer operating, thus forcing all the load through abovenet and overloading them?
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| lawrencedesigns |
Jul 21 2004, 12:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 14-July 04 From: West Hills, CA Member No.: 2,349 |
I am on the Alfa BB also and it is lightning quick. The difference? They allow no animations. Anything that moves is bog slow and will make everything creep.
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