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post Jul 4 2013, 03:49 PM
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2013 bump on an important thread
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post Jul 4 2013, 05:11 PM
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Thanks for the bump. Today I removed my stock HXs and getting ready to install SSIs tomorrow, now I will do a leak check first.
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:29 PM
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I'm back to thinking about electric heaters for the air-cooled cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Jul 4 2013, 09:53 PM
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Last year Dansk purchased the SSI brand and added the 911 HBs to their inventory.
I wonder of they are the supplier for the 914 HBs sold by Mittlemotor Deutschland ?
Anyway, the cost of liability insurance on making this product sounds higher than the mfg. wheels and suspensions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I never would have expected a high QC'd product like the SSI to fail.
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post Jul 4 2013, 11:37 PM
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$28 O2 sensor that could save your life
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post Jul 5 2013, 01:17 AM
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Good reviews too.
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post Jul 5 2013, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:29 PM) *

I'm back to thinking about electric heaters for the air-cooled cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Good luck with that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Electric heaters for VW bugs, etc. have been around since the 60's, they never work worth a shit.
Too much of a draw on the alternator.
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post Jul 5 2013, 07:17 AM
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I have never had that tight of a car to worry about CO or drove it often enough in the cold enough to want heat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) But I would be interested in seeing the gas heater in action
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post Jul 5 2013, 07:24 AM
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Webasto and Eberspacher are the two most common ones around. VWs used them all the time, as did early 911s (they fit in the smugglers box). I've only seen pictures of one installed in a 914, and have never met anyone who's seen one in person.

They do work great, but also have the CO risk if the heat exchanger inside the unit cracks. CO monitors are the safest and cheapest way to go IMHO!
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post Jul 5 2013, 07:27 AM
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post Jul 5 2013, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jul 5 2013, 06:04 AM) *
QUOTE(euro911 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:29 PM) *

I'm back to thinking about electric heaters for the air-cooled cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Good luck with that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Electric heaters for VW bugs, etc. have been around since the 60's, they never work worth a shit.
Too much of a draw on the alternator.
Yeah, the 25A or 30A generators on the 356s and 912s barely support the car's needs. The 55A on the 914 isn't much of a powerhouse either.

One would need to install one of those high-amperage alternators (like Pete (pnewman) sells) to be effective.

I don't know how much current the seat heaters draw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 06:21 AM
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Just wanted to give this thread a bump since the weather has gotten cooler here in Indiana. Thanks again Brad for great info. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 07:49 AM
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All I wish is that SSI (the new one) would make some 914/6 heat exchangers....
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:23 AM
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All I wish is that SSI (the new one) would make some 914/6 heat exchangers....


There are no oem ones being made but there are a couple different types made in Europe that look promising
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post Oct 24 2013, 02:12 AM
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There is ferrous and non-ferrous stainless.

Best way, IMO, is to plug,tape, seal the end and apply pressure, Even with a hair dryer to see if it is leaking.

Plug the end, use the hair dryer (I have a heat gun that i use in cool mode) and see if you have air coming out of the edges of a heat exchanger. Good excuse to fire up a cigar when it is not golf season....
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:07 AM
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Since the weather is starting to cool off I thought I would give this tread a bump. I am getting ready for my last swap meet of the season in Cincy this weekend and going through some SSI exchangers. One out of 5 that I have leaks. I just do a simple water test. I plug the muffler end and fill the tubes with water and let them sit for 30min. doesn't take long for water to find a pin hole or crack and start to seep out. The exchanger I have that is leaking water looks great, no dents, but one of the tabs has been repaired.

Be careful when buying SSI exchangers ask the seller to do a simple water test to verify they don't leak. I will also to Brad's air pressure test on the ones that pass my water test just to make 100% sure they are fine.
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:41 AM
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Just saw this, and it may explain the leak that I can't seem to find. However, I am not running stainless, but stock exhaust. I don't run heat, so that's not an issue, but the backfire is.

Does this problem happen with the stock steel exhausts too? I assume it would, but this thread seems to focus only on the stainless.

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post Sep 24 2014, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Garold Shaffer @ Sep 24 2014, 08:07 AM) *

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Since the weather is starting to cool off I thought I would give this tread a bump. I am getting ready for my last swap meet of the season in Cincy this weekend and going through some SSI exchangers. One out of 5 that I have leaks. I just do a simple water test. I plug the muffler end and fill the tubes with water and let them sit for 30min. doesn't take long for water to find a pin hole or crack and start to seep out. The exchanger I have that is leaking water looks great, no dents, but one of the tabs has been repaired.

Be careful when buying SSI exchangers ask the seller to do a simple water test to verify they don't leak. I will also to Brad's air pressure test on the ones that pass my water test just to make 100% sure they are fine.



Can you do this with the hes are on the car? If not what is the best way with the heat exchangers on the car?
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post Sep 24 2014, 12:23 PM
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If the exchangers are on the car, a simple battery powered CO detector is probably the best you can do. Even on units that test out good, isn't it cheap insurance to have one in the car?
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post Sep 24 2014, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(914ltd @ Oct 6 2011, 08:34 AM) *

I posted this last year, heating season is here again. These are big cracks, a tiny one you would not be able to hear would still be dangerous. These are not accident damaged. If you have a set on your car, grab the carbon monoxide detector from home and take a ride with the heat on and windows rolled up. There is a detector used in small aircraft also available. The last photo is how we now test for leaks using air pressure. Brad

I dd similar PT to the SSI's i bought from Gerald, Plugged the round outlet ends & Filled the pipes with water as full as they would go with parts tilted about 45 degrees and left for 24 hrs, no change in water level.
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