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Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update |
McMark |
Apr 16 2015, 12:16 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Certainly sounds like the harness. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Most likely culprit is the pins in the connector at the ECU. Those connectors are a major PITA to assemble. I'd suspect the serial connection wires themselves first.
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 16 2015, 02:06 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Will find out tonight. If I can get a connection with it my plan is to take it to Tonys tomorrow and put it back in the car. Go connector by connector until it fails to try and isolate the problem.
Zach |
r_towle |
Apr 16 2015, 02:24 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
how many pins is the connector?
Have you considered buying a more rugged cable with the correct number of wires, and redo the connectors at each end to match the new wire? Something that may be easier to assemble and more reliable?? I am watching with loads of curiosity because I am about to go down this road.... Rich |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 16 2015, 02:28 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Rich it's an amp-seal connector. Stop by my room at the Inn tonight it tomorrow night, I'll have it there. It's pretty rugged, and weatherproof.
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Dr Evil |
Apr 16 2015, 02:45 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Can't wait.
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Dr Evil |
Apr 16 2015, 02:47 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Pretty sure this is your problem. Need a new hampster.
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crash914 |
Apr 16 2015, 02:57 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
bring a gas mask...
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 17 2015, 07:00 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well, not the harness.
I did find a fault in the fuse block, but that is fixed easy enough. I connected the harness to my laptop via my little tester setup and had a connection instantly. I am at a total loss as to what I need to do next. Its got to be something in my car, which makes ZERO sense to me. I'm totally stumped. Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 20 2015, 12:11 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I now have full confidence in the harness.
When I did my test at Hershey I only used one ground point. It occured to me when I got sober the next day that there are 8 ground points. I married all the ground together when I got home on Sunday and retested. ECU connected right away on the test bench. So, its something in my car. YAY! ;-| I dont wantto tow the car back home, but I dont see it making sense to work on it at Tony's as I have to take off work. I also dont want to pay tony to chase wires. I want to pay him to tune... So I guess I have to tow the car home and start digging into it old school style. Which will have to be Friday, and then work on it while I still have my post Hershey 914 buzz going on. I will admit I was pricing buying IDFs again to get the car moving under its own power. But I'm not giving up yet. Zach |
McMark |
Apr 20 2015, 12:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Bad relay board? Test the power supply pin. It's the one in the white connector on the right/passenger side. Make sure it's getting 12v, maybe even try jumpering it straight to the battery.
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 20 2015, 01:00 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Relay board is first of the things I have to check.
The fuel pump also does not turn on when the key is turned, so I think there has to be some wierdness going on there. When I had carbs it was not much of an issue. Zach |
crash914 |
Apr 20 2015, 01:01 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hot wire. Eliminate everything and then add back one by one. Do you need to borrow my trailer?
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r_towle |
Apr 20 2015, 01:08 PM
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 20 2015, 03:32 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Herb, I'll just flat tow it. Thanks for the offer though!
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McMark |
Apr 20 2015, 04:05 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Main power relay on the board may not be tripping. That would cause both issues.
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toon1 |
Apr 20 2015, 04:21 PM
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relay board fuse, could be a switching transistor on the main board also.
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 20 2015, 06:34 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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McMark |
Apr 20 2015, 07:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Since he's got Megasquirt I listed in his signature I suspect he's talking about the MS board. Another reason I only use MicroSquirt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 22 2015, 07:38 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Since I will be doing some rewiring, I made something big.
All the 914 wire diagrams in one wall poster. Big one is the engine side, since that will be my main target. Little copy of the firewall forward. Detail of the relay board - my likely nemesis. And the ledgend for all three charts. Calipers are in there for scale reference. It's 48x36 inches. That should help a bit. Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 24 2015, 09:02 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
my 914 is back in my garage.
Work starts tonight... Zach |
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