Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update |
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Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update |
McMark |
Aug 11 2018, 04:09 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Is this the wiring you have?
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VaccaRabite |
Aug 11 2018, 10:43 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The diagram I got is different. Yours is better and has more information. Off get my printout and post it up after the kids and I get home from lunch.
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VaccaRabite |
Aug 11 2018, 09:25 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
EVERYTHING I posted last night is garbage.
The IAC was broken, the idle control screw was open, etc etc. I should delete that post, the information in it is BAD! Today I put in the the new IAC that arrived today. Wow, instant response when I changed thing on the computer. I'm using a frequency in the 300s. I tried a low freq and the IAC did not like it. Totally closed the idle screw. Then started experimenting. The car simply would not start for a while. Then it started, and eventually I got the hot idle to be sitting pretty happy at ~1050 rpm. When all the electrics are on (lights, fogs, flashers, wipers), the idle drops a little and hunts a bit, but does not stall. Here is my current setup. As cheap as these valves (~$11 on amazon) are, I may buy another just to have it on hand. Here is the current setup. The valve I had was clearly toast, I was probably just working off the open air screw on the throttle body. Tonight I could change the duty cycle at hot idle by 1 digit and get a significant change to idle. The idle may not be perfect, but at between 1000 and 1100 I'll take it. Zach Now the test will be to see if it will start from cold tomorrow morning. It should, but I may need to tune the cold start some. |
VaccaRabite |
Aug 12 2018, 08:25 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Started right up from cold this morning and settled into a 1200 rpm idle while the engine started warming up. Electrical on or off made no difference.
I’ll take it. Zach |
crash914 |
Aug 12 2018, 08:42 AM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You go! When are you going to drive it over?
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VaccaRabite |
Aug 12 2018, 09:41 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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VaccaRabite |
Sep 20 2019, 01:37 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’m declaring victory.
In July I sent the car to Translog for tuning. I got it back yesterday. They are a good shop and have a bit of a wait. And Tony himself wanted to do all the work on my car since my cars EFI is not stock. The first thing they did was upgrade the firmware to one that would work a little better with Aircooled cars. In particular the Coolant Temp was not capped at 200, but would happily register temps that would melt my heads. The car is running great. I had to change a couple things, in particular Tony did not understand the IAC function with the resistor, and said he did not want to charge me while he learned it. So he set the idle with a bolt, and I reinstalled the IAC last night and got the idle tuned how I want it. Today I took the day off for some kid stuff. Once that was over I put about 100 miles on the car, with my laptop so I could pull over and tweak things. It did fantastic! Yup. Calling this a win. Hopefully I’ll see some folks at Ski Roundtop tomorrow for the Aircooled meet. Zach |
mepstein |
Sep 20 2019, 02:06 PM
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Spoke |
Sep 20 2019, 05:13 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,972 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
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VaccaRabite |
Sep 20 2019, 05:17 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Superhawk996 |
Sep 21 2019, 09:20 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,746 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Thanks for posting this thread. Great information!
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rudedude |
Sep 22 2019, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So which IAC are you now using? I am still having idle issues with my microsquirt conversion but other than that it sure runs well. Would you mind posting your msg file?
Thanks, Jule |
VaccaRabite |
Sep 22 2019, 06:54 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’m using the IAC out of a Hyundai Sonata. It’s a simple (and cheap -$11 on Amazon) PWM 3 wire unit. It works really well. I’ll post the MSQ file in a minute after I boot the tuning laptop.
Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Sep 22 2019, 07:39 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,423 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So which IAC are you now using? I am still having idle issues with my microsquirt conversion but other than that it sure runs well. Would you mind posting your msg file? Thanks, Jule @rudedude Zach's latest 914 MSQ file Its very very close. Completely driveable. It will sometimes pop through the intake on cold start, and I'm still tuning that out. But one it starts I only have to let it warm up for about 30 seconds before I can drive away. Zach |
rudedude |
Sep 22 2019, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks! Now I have to figure out how to read the file and compare what I have done. Soon it'll be running well and then put away for the winter
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