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> Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update
VaccaRabite
post Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
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I am retrofitting this thread to be my full on conversion thread, documenting my change from dual 40 Webers to MSII fuel injection.

Here is what I have so far, and what I need:
HAVE:
  • MSIIv3.52 pre-built box.
  • JimStim board for testing the MSII box
  • V3 main Board wire harness.

    Will soon have:
    Injection system off a 1.8 914, from which I will use
  • Throttle body
  • Intake Runners
  • Fuel Injectors (unless I find they don't flow enough fuel)
  • Fuel Rail
  • Fuel Pump (maybe - Joe may still need it for himself)

    Stuff I need:
  • TPS or MAF sensor
  • 4 wire O2 sensor
  • Bung welded into exhaust
  • Fuel Pump (Maybe, see above)
  • Other stuff I don't know about yet
The engine is a 2056, particulars as follows:
Built on 1.7 heads.
Jake's 9530 cam (carb cam similar to Web 494)
Mallory optical ignition
ACCEL (UltraCoil) coil.
SSI exchangers for exhaust.

My goals for this project are to have near stock intake noise volume, better cold starting - especially in cooler weather, negate the bad effects or Ethanol on carbs, teach myself something about fuel injection.

Since I already have a pretty good ignition system, I am not going to go after crank fired ignition at this time, but I am not ruling that out for the future.

Before I begin the conversion, I am going to pull the engine and do a little refreshing and cleaning, including:
  • Fixing an oil leak at the front of the engine
  • cleaning under all tins (not that I exect to find much, but its a good thing to do)
  • Fix some cooling tins issues that I have been living with for the past 2 years
  • Open up holes in the tins I welded shut so I can replace heater tubing and heat my cabin!
  • Check for battery acid leaks or rust appearance in the engine bay. Neutralize.
QUOTE
I am getting ready to start my conversion form carbs to EFI.

My goal is to use as much stock EQ as I can, but replace the sensors and such with modern, easy and cheaper to find stuff. Plus, since my car has a cam, the stock FI will not work.

My engine has 1.7 4 bolt heads.
1) are the 1.7 and 1.8 intake runners the same?
2) Is the intake runner inside diameter smaller then the 2.0 intake runner ID?
3) is the throttle body for the 1.8 smaller then the throttle body for the 2.0?

If the 1.8 TB is smaller then the 2.0, can the 2.0 TB be swapped in?

Are 1.8 injectors high or low impedance?

I am asking this as I will be able to get Joe's discarded 1.8 bits when he pulls his engine and starts going down the 2056 route.


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Vacca Rabite   Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread   Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
mepstein   He knows he'll be driving by the time it's...   May 5 2013, 07:30 PM
Dr Evil   He knows he'll be driving by the time it...   May 9 2013, 09:21 AM
Vacca Rabite   Mike, your Tranny Wagon has been down for your FI ...   May 9 2013, 11:17 AM
Dr Evil   Maybe this weekend, buttercup :)   May 9 2013, 07:27 PM
r_towle   Zach, You could always do what I did. Buy a runni...   May 9 2013, 08:43 PM
balljoint   Zach, You could always do what I did. Buy a runn...   May 10 2013, 05:03 AM
worn   Zach, You could always do what I did. Buy a runn...   May 10 2013, 11:49 AM
Vacca Rabite   Holy crap! Progress got made! I brought ...   Oct 14 2013, 07:41 AM
FourBlades   Whooo, nice progress! :beer2: That is a goo...   Oct 14 2013, 08:02 AM
Dr Evil   Just in time for snow :blink:   Oct 14 2013, 08:28 AM
edwin   The coil in a normal 12v relay should work as an o...   Oct 14 2013, 07:30 PM
McMark   This is the tach upgrade. It's not my develop...   Oct 15 2013, 09:00 PM
jsayre914   Hey Zach, Is your car running yet? :popcorn:   Dec 15 2013, 05:34 PM
r_towle   Hey Zach, Is your car running yet? :popcorn: ...   Dec 15 2013, 06:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   I have a 914?! Oh yeah, that thing.   Dec 15 2013, 06:50 PM
Vacca Rabite   Matt and Bob have both offered to come over and he...   Dec 16 2013, 07:17 AM
Vacca Rabite   Spent a little bit of quality time with the engine...   Dec 29 2013, 06:16 PM
saigon71   Spent a little bit of quality time with the engin...   Dec 30 2013, 07:11 AM
Vacca Rabite   Heat I can provide. 70K BTU heater gets it about p...   Dec 30 2013, 07:16 AM
Vacca Rabite   More work last night. Was 24 degrees in my garage...   Jan 18 2014, 08:51 AM
type47   :driving: soon. IAT ... remind me what that is ...   Jan 18 2014, 09:18 AM
Vacca Rabite   Intake air temp sensor. Can probably get a cheap ...   Jan 18 2014, 09:30 AM
aircooledtechguy   You sir are a steelie-eyed missle-man for being ou...   Jan 18 2014, 01:05 PM
Mike Bellis   Great Progress! I don't like working in t...   Jan 18 2014, 05:40 PM
r_towle   If we did not go out in the cold, garage time is l...   Jan 19 2014, 09:31 AM
Java2570   Zach - thanks for posting those shift rod install ...   Jan 19 2014, 10:31 AM
Vacca Rabite   Put this in the correct thread this time.... Whil...   Jan 19 2014, 12:00 PM
type47   I'm going to make just a simple pipe instead....   Jan 20 2014, 07:48 AM
bigkensteele   Put this in the correct thread this time.... Whi...   Jan 20 2014, 08:39 PM
Vacca Rabite   Put this in the correct thread this time.... Wh...   Jan 20 2014, 09:05 PM
bigkensteele   No clue. How do you tell? It is not original to m...   Jan 20 2014, 10:20 PM
aircooledtechguy   No clue. How do you tell? It is not original to ...   Jan 20 2014, 11:06 PM
Vacca Rabite   At the very least I'll be taking an air restri...   Jan 20 2014, 10:13 AM
aircooledtechguy   At the very least I'll be taking an air restr...   Jan 20 2014, 11:00 AM
McMark   Nate, CLT should be your CHT. CLT is a measure of...   Jan 20 2014, 11:03 AM
aircooledtechguy   Nate, CLT should be your CHT. CLT is a measure o...   Jan 20 2014, 02:24 PM
Vacca Rabite   Bung and IAT already on order. I'll have the b...   Jan 20 2014, 11:07 AM
McMark   AH! The other pipe is just a hose connection (...   Jan 20 2014, 02:27 PM
Vacca Rabite   Intake cut out and welded up. Turns out the slip f...   Jan 20 2014, 03:52 PM
scotty b   No welding pics :confused:   Jan 20 2014, 09:00 PM
Vacca Rabite   No welding pics :confused: I took one but it is...   Jan 20 2014, 09:07 PM
scotty b   No welding pics :confused: I took one but it i...   Jan 20 2014, 09:09 PM
Kirmizi   Does Radar O'Reilly know you have his hat?   Jan 20 2014, 09:21 PM
McMark   Hey, that muffler mount is upside down!   Jan 20 2014, 10:38 PM
scotty b   Hey, that muffler mount is upside down! SSHH...   Jan 24 2014, 03:00 PM
Vacca Rabite   Steel bung came today to weld into the intake I ma...   Jan 24 2014, 02:45 PM
Vacca Rabite   :rollseyes:   Jan 24 2014, 03:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   Finished welding the intake pipe with the IAT bung...   Jan 25 2014, 09:37 PM
saigon71   Looks good Zach...when is the engine install party...   Jan 26 2014, 12:06 AM
Vacca Rabite   Looks good Zach...when is the engine install part...   Jan 26 2014, 08:24 AM
type47   We could say the 8th ... The 8th is the drinki...   Jan 26 2014, 09:42 AM
Vacca Rabite   We could say the 8th ... The 8th is the drink...   Jan 26 2014, 10:05 AM
Vacca Rabite   In all it's painted glory. Ready for instal...   Jan 27 2014, 12:26 AM
Vacca Rabite   Friday night is usually work night. Tonights plan...   Feb 1 2014, 02:04 AM
Vacca Rabite   More progress made. I got the new fancy shifter b...   Feb 1 2014, 05:01 PM
r_towle   So you have time for some rust converter paint on ...   Feb 2 2014, 09:15 AM
Vacca Rabite   If my garage heats up to a point where I could put...   Feb 2 2014, 07:05 PM
McMark   :blink:   Feb 2 2014, 07:06 PM
Dr Evil   :blink: :agree: :blink:   Feb 2 2014, 07:36 PM
Vacca Rabite   Goddamn ninjas are everywhere. Now just answer th...   Feb 2 2014, 07:40 PM
scotty b   Goddamn ninjas are everywhere. Now just answer t...   Feb 2 2014, 08:04 PM
Dr Evil   What is your question? What are you trying to conv...   Feb 2 2014, 07:50 PM
saigon71   Zach: I have dabbled with quite a few rust-proofi...   Feb 4 2014, 07:30 AM
Vacca Rabite   This weekend... The engine may cough to life!...   Feb 18 2014, 01:53 PM
mepstein   Help? I thought it was beer and chili ? :confused...   Feb 18 2014, 02:16 PM
Vacca Rabite   Never fear, food and beer will be provided. Also, ...   Feb 18 2014, 02:44 PM
saigon71   Looking forward to hearing that engine fire up Zac...   Feb 18 2014, 03:28 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'm looking forward to seeing folks too!   Feb 18 2014, 07:07 PM
Vacca Rabite   Two cases of beer are chilling in the garage. New...   Feb 21 2014, 06:58 PM
r_towle   OMG.... Are you putting the motor in the car?   Feb 21 2014, 08:31 PM
Vacca Rabite   That's the plan. That and hang out with other...   Feb 21 2014, 10:02 PM
balljoint   Good luck. Just as long as no one tries to put th...   Feb 22 2014, 06:33 AM
Vacca Rabite   Mark, Bob and Matt showed up. Got a lot done, but ...   Feb 22 2014, 05:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   So, fuel pump question. Bob and Mark puzzled ove...   Feb 22 2014, 05:20 PM
Racer Chris   S connects to the filter D connects to the tunnel ...   Feb 22 2014, 06:05 PM
McMark   :agree: with Chris. S - Suction/Supply from the t...   Feb 22 2014, 06:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   Ahhhhh! We knew we needed a T or a Y but could...   Feb 22 2014, 06:27 PM
r_towle   Ok, I was worried you might actually get it runnin...   Feb 22 2014, 11:12 PM
saigon71   Great to see everyone & get caught up. Some p...   Feb 23 2014, 07:27 AM
Vacca Rabite   Goal for tonight: Fuel pump in, and rear shift lin...   Mar 22 2014, 07:03 PM
mepstein   Funny timing, I was just about to PM you and check...   Mar 22 2014, 07:07 PM
Vacca Rabite   Yes. Yes I need those. Thank you! Got the fuel...   Mar 22 2014, 10:57 PM
scotty b   :yawn:   Mar 23 2014, 07:06 AM
Vacca Rabite   Ahh. Not buried in work. Not traveling. Actually h...   Apr 4 2014, 06:37 PM
Dr Evil   Just shove our phone in his ear and take a pic. Se...   Apr 4 2014, 06:44 PM
Vacca Rabite   Raging ear infection in the ear and ear canal. Yea...   Apr 4 2014, 08:47 PM
Vacca Rabite   Cigar break time. CVs are torqued. Tangerine shif...   Apr 5 2014, 08:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   Bah. No more work tonight. Temps have tumbled and ...   Apr 5 2014, 09:43 PM
saigon71   Bah. No more work tonight. Temps have tumbled and...   Apr 6 2014, 08:27 AM
hot_shoe914   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Apr 5 2014, 11:03 PM
type47   hmmm... I installed my gas tank then cut the fuel ...   Apr 6 2014, 08:34 AM
Vacca Rabite   I like to have a service loop under the tank in ca...   Apr 6 2014, 08:54 AM
Racer Chris   I like to have a service loop under the tank in c...   Apr 9 2014, 09:26 PM
Vacca Rabite   Had a really productive afternoon. Almost felt li...   Apr 9 2014, 06:58 PM
Vacca Rabite   So.... What does that mean I need to do? Straigh...   Apr 10 2014, 06:26 AM
Chris H.   I don't know but your custom rear 914 badge is...   Apr 10 2014, 07:16 AM
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