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> Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update
VaccaRabite
post Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
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I am retrofitting this thread to be my full on conversion thread, documenting my change from dual 40 Webers to MSII fuel injection.

Here is what I have so far, and what I need:
HAVE:
  • MSIIv3.52 pre-built box.
  • JimStim board for testing the MSII box
  • V3 main Board wire harness.

    Will soon have:
    Injection system off a 1.8 914, from which I will use
  • Throttle body
  • Intake Runners
  • Fuel Injectors (unless I find they don't flow enough fuel)
  • Fuel Rail
  • Fuel Pump (maybe - Joe may still need it for himself)

    Stuff I need:
  • TPS or MAF sensor
  • 4 wire O2 sensor
  • Bung welded into exhaust
  • Fuel Pump (Maybe, see above)
  • Other stuff I don't know about yet
The engine is a 2056, particulars as follows:
Built on 1.7 heads.
Jake's 9530 cam (carb cam similar to Web 494)
Mallory optical ignition
ACCEL (UltraCoil) coil.
SSI exchangers for exhaust.

My goals for this project are to have near stock intake noise volume, better cold starting - especially in cooler weather, negate the bad effects or Ethanol on carbs, teach myself something about fuel injection.

Since I already have a pretty good ignition system, I am not going to go after crank fired ignition at this time, but I am not ruling that out for the future.

Before I begin the conversion, I am going to pull the engine and do a little refreshing and cleaning, including:
  • Fixing an oil leak at the front of the engine
  • cleaning under all tins (not that I exect to find much, but its a good thing to do)
  • Fix some cooling tins issues that I have been living with for the past 2 years
  • Open up holes in the tins I welded shut so I can replace heater tubing and heat my cabin!
  • Check for battery acid leaks or rust appearance in the engine bay. Neutralize.
QUOTE
I am getting ready to start my conversion form carbs to EFI.

My goal is to use as much stock EQ as I can, but replace the sensors and such with modern, easy and cheaper to find stuff. Plus, since my car has a cam, the stock FI will not work.

My engine has 1.7 4 bolt heads.
1) are the 1.7 and 1.8 intake runners the same?
2) Is the intake runner inside diameter smaller then the 2.0 intake runner ID?
3) is the throttle body for the 1.8 smaller then the throttle body for the 2.0?

If the 1.8 TB is smaller then the 2.0, can the 2.0 TB be swapped in?

Are 1.8 injectors high or low impedance?

I am asking this as I will be able to get Joe's discarded 1.8 bits when he pulls his engine and starts going down the 2056 route.


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Vacca Rabite   Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread   Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
Vacca Rabite   Its a possibility. Mark does not think so, but it ...   May 25 2015, 06:12 PM
toon1   At this point I'd start looking at taking ever...   May 25 2015, 06:16 PM
Vacca Rabite   At this point the tach is the only sensor malfunct...   May 25 2015, 06:38 PM
McMark   I'm just gonna be an asshole until it happens ...   May 25 2015, 06:41 PM
Vacca Rabite   I will. Sometime this week I will get that loaded....   May 25 2015, 08:04 PM
Dtjaden   Zach, I may have lead you astray with my comment ...   May 25 2015, 09:44 PM
crash914   Let me know, but I seem 2 be available this weeken...   May 27 2015, 05:59 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'm helping family move Saturday but will be f...   May 27 2015, 08:55 PM
crash914   I should be able to do Sunday, anytime after 12:00...   May 28 2015, 02:53 AM
Vacca Rabite   I should be able to do Sunday, anytime after 12:0...   May 28 2015, 07:33 PM
Vacca Rabite   Last night I got the BG 3.83 code loaded. Yay...   May 30 2015, 07:20 AM
crash914   Planning on it!   May 30 2015, 07:32 AM
McMark   The pulsing fuel pump will go away once you choose...   May 30 2015, 09:29 AM
Vacca Rabite   Stuff got done today. We did not fire, but we got ...   May 31 2015, 06:16 PM
904svo   Stuff got done today. We did not fire, but we got...   May 31 2015, 07:56 PM
914itis   I've been watching this thread from day one. ...   May 31 2015, 08:42 PM
mepstein   I've been watching this thread from day one. ...   Jun 6 2015, 07:41 AM
Vacca Rabite   Its getting closer. I've put all other hobbie...   May 31 2015, 09:17 PM
Dr Evil   I look forward to this running.....and the subsequ...   Jun 6 2015, 06:42 AM
76-914   Not trying to be mean spirited Zach. Just wanted t...   Jun 6 2015, 08:07 AM
type47   Just wanted to know when was the last time this ...   Jun 6 2015, 11:12 AM
Vacca Rabite   [quote name='76-914' post='2195529' date='Ju...   Jun 6 2015, 07:06 PM
jimkelly   car looks good.   Jul 3 2015, 10:45 AM
Vacca Rabite   Spring of 2011 I got pissed off about carbs being ...   Jun 6 2015, 08:51 AM
76-914   Spring of 2011 I got pissed off about carbs being...   Jun 6 2015, 03:00 PM
toon1   have you been on the MS forums to get some answers...   Jun 6 2015, 09:25 AM
Vacca Rabite   Just turned down a kayak down muddy creek trip to ...   Jun 6 2015, 07:11 PM
crash914   Get r done!   Jun 6 2015, 08:00 PM
Vacca Rabite   We'll one mystery solved. Won't fire if ...   Jul 2 2015, 08:46 PM
McMark   :D   Jul 2 2015, 09:12 PM
ConeDodger   :D And by that smile he means he's been the...   Jul 3 2015, 12:50 AM
sixnotfour   hRX6hSGeZs4   Jul 3 2015, 07:57 AM
wndsrfr   [youtube]hRX6hSGeZs4 Which brings to mind one of...   Jul 3 2015, 12:34 PM
jpnovak   Did you ever get this sorted and running?   Sep 29 2015, 08:19 PM
Vacca Rabite   Not touched it since June. Will pick it up again ...   Sep 29 2015, 08:36 PM
Vacca Rabite   LAvXXTp2ZaM It. Ran. Today. Doug came over tod...   Feb 27 2016, 07:34 PM
bigkensteele   But it is getting CLOSE! IT RAN! Zach ...   Feb 27 2016, 10:18 PM
gms   It. Ran. Today... Great news hope to see it ...   Feb 28 2016, 10:45 AM
saigon71   Kick ass. This is great news!!! :be...   Feb 29 2016, 02:52 PM
r_towle   Congrats, the hard part is over, now it's just...   Feb 27 2016, 07:37 PM
mepstein   :beer2:   Feb 27 2016, 08:08 PM
McMark   :wub: :trophy:   Feb 28 2016, 07:30 AM
aircooledtechguy   Way to go Zach!! :beer2:   Feb 28 2016, 09:50 AM
914itis   Look like the mystery 914 is finally :driving-gir...   Feb 28 2016, 10:34 AM
jpnovak   Nice! Now start tuning and go drive.   Feb 28 2016, 07:17 PM
914dave   :beer2: keep going, you're close now.   Feb 28 2016, 07:45 PM
wndsnd   Hershey autox! Way to go Zach!   Feb 28 2016, 08:21 PM
Dion   Congrats Zach. Expect ya at Hershey then. Way to g...   Feb 29 2016, 11:22 PM
Michelj13   Good Times ahead :-) Have fun tuning, you will le...   Mar 18 2016, 12:23 AM
Vacca Rabite   I'm back from Hershey and exhausted. But ther...   Apr 17 2016, 07:29 PM
r_towle   Great news. Can't believe the shifting did not...   Apr 17 2016, 08:13 PM
McMark   Take the car to get dyno tuned. I'm gonna keep...   Apr 17 2016, 09:49 PM
Vacca Rabite   Mike had been working with the shifter Friday, and...   Apr 19 2016, 09:04 AM
Vacca Rabite   Another note - At one point there was a concern t...   Apr 21 2016, 11:53 AM
76-914   B Another note - At one point there was a concern...   Apr 21 2016, 03:26 PM
McMark   I think the late tachs work and the early ones don...   Apr 21 2016, 12:03 PM
Vacca Rabite   Did some work on the car today, and yesterday. To...   Sep 5 2016, 06:23 PM
BeemerSteve   Pictures please of your Megasquirt set up in the e...   Sep 5 2016, 06:46 PM
mepstein   Sound like you're going to be driving soon. :...   Sep 5 2016, 07:02 PM
Vacca Rabite   Sound like you're going to be driving soon. ...   Sep 6 2016, 07:50 AM
McMark   Do I dare say it...... :hide: Dyno tuning. :ph34r...   Sep 6 2016, 07:58 AM
Vacca Rabite   Do I dare say it...... :hide: Dyno tuning. :ph34...   Sep 6 2016, 11:38 AM
Vacca Rabite   So. My desire to eventually drive the car has ove...   Feb 6 2017, 09:57 PM
76-914   So. My desire to eventually drive the car has ov...   Feb 7 2017, 06:36 PM
saigon71   It'll be good to see your car on the road agai...   Feb 7 2017, 08:18 AM
struckn   That's great news Zach glad you're getting...   Feb 7 2017, 10:07 AM
Vacca Rabite   Car is at Marks shop, and there has been progress....   Feb 23 2017, 08:20 PM
crash914   I need help with this one. How is a starter affec...   Feb 23 2017, 08:28 PM
Vacca Rabite   I need help with this one. How is a starter affe...   Feb 23 2017, 08:31 PM
shag   I need help with this one. How is a starter aff...   Feb 23 2017, 09:20 PM
shag   I certainly hope that this works out for you, I h...   Feb 23 2017, 09:28 PM
timothy_nd28   My hat is off to Mark for finding that, what a gre...   Feb 23 2017, 09:29 PM
McMark   That was one of the craziest troubleshooting sessi...   Feb 24 2017, 04:03 AM
McMark   Oh yeah, I also tried adding extra ground cables i...   Feb 24 2017, 04:08 AM
falcor75   Wow thats one crazy issue. Wierd that that the sta...   Feb 24 2017, 04:57 AM
crash914   since I have a hi torque starter also, I will be w...   Feb 24 2017, 05:32 AM
McMark   Possibly EMI.   Feb 24 2017, 07:52 AM
struckn   :Qarl: Wow Zach, this is great news and amazing ...   Feb 24 2017, 08:55 AM
76-914   Possibly EMI. Great Amazing find, Mark. That is ...   Feb 24 2017, 09:48 AM
ConeDodger   Possibly EMI. Great Amazing find, Mark. That is...   Feb 24 2017, 06:30 PM
Spoke   Great find but really weird. So put in a differen...   Feb 24 2017, 05:58 PM
jd74914   So put in a different starter and the VR sensor w...   Feb 24 2017, 07:46 PM
sixnotfour   Son's smile says , my first car is almost read...   Feb 25 2017, 01:33 PM
Vacca Rabite   Sitting at work daydreaming about driving my car t...   Feb 27 2017, 01:31 PM
mepstein   Sitting at work daydreaming about driving my car ...   Feb 27 2017, 01:49 PM
McMark   Turns out, as is so often the case, that there wer...   Mar 5 2017, 05:21 PM
Spoke   Good news.   Mar 5 2017, 06:32 PM
crash914   Great news! I think that the MS only uses the...   Mar 5 2017, 06:07 PM
McMark   Great news! I think that the MS only uses th...   Mar 6 2017, 07:16 AM
sixnotfour   The Son is smiling.....   Mar 5 2017, 06:48 PM
aircooledtechguy   Have you guys considered switching out the VR sens...   Mar 6 2017, 01:10 PM
McMark   It's something to keep in mind. But I haven...   Mar 6 2017, 01:14 PM
McMark   :driving:   Apr 3 2017, 08:40 AM
ConeDodger   :driving: Road test! :woohoo:   Apr 3 2017, 09:07 AM
crash914   No sound? :confused:   Apr 3 2017, 10:36 AM
McMark   No sound? :confused: It's a picture. :confus...   Apr 3 2017, 10:38 AM
Mike D.   So... It takes 6 years for a megasquirt conversion...   Apr 3 2017, 11:04 AM
ejm   So... It takes 6 years for a megasquirt conversio...   Apr 3 2017, 11:14 AM
Vacca Rabite   Mark said my 2056 dynoed 130 HP and 140 TQ at the ...   Apr 3 2017, 07:24 PM
r_towle   Mark said my 2056 dynoed 130 HP and 140 TQ at the...   Apr 3 2017, 07:28 PM
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