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> Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread, 7/20/18 update
VaccaRabite
post Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
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I am retrofitting this thread to be my full on conversion thread, documenting my change from dual 40 Webers to MSII fuel injection.

Here is what I have so far, and what I need:
HAVE:
  • MSIIv3.52 pre-built box.
  • JimStim board for testing the MSII box
  • V3 main Board wire harness.

    Will soon have:
    Injection system off a 1.8 914, from which I will use
  • Throttle body
  • Intake Runners
  • Fuel Injectors (unless I find they don't flow enough fuel)
  • Fuel Rail
  • Fuel Pump (maybe - Joe may still need it for himself)

    Stuff I need:
  • TPS or MAF sensor
  • 4 wire O2 sensor
  • Bung welded into exhaust
  • Fuel Pump (Maybe, see above)
  • Other stuff I don't know about yet
The engine is a 2056, particulars as follows:
Built on 1.7 heads.
Jake's 9530 cam (carb cam similar to Web 494)
Mallory optical ignition
ACCEL (UltraCoil) coil.
SSI exchangers for exhaust.

My goals for this project are to have near stock intake noise volume, better cold starting - especially in cooler weather, negate the bad effects or Ethanol on carbs, teach myself something about fuel injection.

Since I already have a pretty good ignition system, I am not going to go after crank fired ignition at this time, but I am not ruling that out for the future.

Before I begin the conversion, I am going to pull the engine and do a little refreshing and cleaning, including:
  • Fixing an oil leak at the front of the engine
  • cleaning under all tins (not that I exect to find much, but its a good thing to do)
  • Fix some cooling tins issues that I have been living with for the past 2 years
  • Open up holes in the tins I welded shut so I can replace heater tubing and heat my cabin!
  • Check for battery acid leaks or rust appearance in the engine bay. Neutralize.
QUOTE
I am getting ready to start my conversion form carbs to EFI.

My goal is to use as much stock EQ as I can, but replace the sensors and such with modern, easy and cheaper to find stuff. Plus, since my car has a cam, the stock FI will not work.

My engine has 1.7 4 bolt heads.
1) are the 1.7 and 1.8 intake runners the same?
2) Is the intake runner inside diameter smaller then the 2.0 intake runner ID?
3) is the throttle body for the 1.8 smaller then the throttle body for the 2.0?

If the 1.8 TB is smaller then the 2.0, can the 2.0 TB be swapped in?

Are 1.8 injectors high or low impedance?

I am asking this as I will be able to get Joe's discarded 1.8 bits when he pulls his engine and starts going down the 2056 route.


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Vacca Rabite   Zach's Carbs to Microsquirt conversion thread   Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM
76-914   Congrats in order for "stick to itness"...   Apr 3 2017, 09:17 PM
r_towle   I am thrilled for you! Been a long haul, I hop...   Apr 3 2017, 11:41 PM
Vacca Rabite   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.st...   Apr 4 2017, 12:06 PM
914dave   Glad to see you're getting it sorted!!   Apr 4 2017, 01:56 PM
arvcube   Awesome! Thanks for sharing your numbers and ...   Apr 4 2017, 03:49 PM
76-914   Quoting the Monkey that got his tail caught in the...   Apr 4 2017, 05:53 PM
ConeDodger   I am so impressed with Megasquirt. The video of Ma...   Apr 4 2017, 05:59 PM
Vacca Rabite   Its going to stay with Mark a little longer to fig...   Apr 6 2017, 09:06 AM
Vacca Rabite   Shipper just contacted me and the car comes home M...   Apr 13 2017, 08:02 AM
saigon71   Shipper just contacted me and the car comes home ...   Apr 14 2017, 07:30 AM
76-914   :cheer:   Apr 13 2017, 08:05 AM
McMark   I'm pretty sure the feedback/run-on issue is a...   Apr 13 2017, 08:31 AM
Vacca Rabite   I've got one of those in my parts stash. How ...   Apr 13 2017, 11:27 AM
McMark   I've got one of those in my parts stash. How...   Apr 13 2017, 12:08 PM
r_towle   Duct tape Mark to the rear trunk, leave the engine...   Apr 13 2017, 11:46 AM
crash914   WELL????? :ttiwwp:   Apr 19 2017, 03:02 PM
McMark   Shipper delayed pickup. So it left GR on Monday in...   Apr 19 2017, 05:21 PM
Vacca Rabite   Got it around 5 today. Took it for a quick spin a...   Apr 19 2017, 06:59 PM
mepstein   Congrats! :beer2:   Apr 19 2017, 07:00 PM
McMark   I've used these once, and have been meaning to...   Apr 19 2017, 07:22 PM
Vacca Rabite   Mark (or anyone) do you think its worth putting in...   Apr 19 2017, 07:26 PM
jd74914   Mark (or anyone) do you think its worth putting i...   Apr 20 2017, 05:25 AM
McMark   I would for plumbing simplicity. It's less co...   Apr 19 2017, 07:28 PM
bigkensteele   Glad to hear you are rolling again, Zach. You des...   Apr 19 2017, 07:45 PM
crash914   :trophy: :beer3: :driving-girl: not in that ord...   Apr 20 2017, 03:57 AM
FourBlades   Great to see you have your car back and running...   Apr 20 2017, 03:34 PM
Vacca Rabite   Small update. Mark and I still have our heads toge...   Apr 27 2017, 12:29 PM
Spoke   You should be able to slow the AAR down a bit by a...   Apr 28 2017, 05:07 PM
Dtjaden   Is there a reason why you are not using a PWM idle...   Apr 28 2017, 05:40 PM
McMark   Is there a reason why you are not using a PWM idl...   Apr 29 2017, 06:54 AM
Vacca Rabite   I'd like to know more about the PWM valves. M...   Apr 30 2017, 11:27 PM
Mblizzard   I'd like to know more about the PWM valves. ...   May 2 2017, 07:22 PM
Vacca Rabite   The other option I have is to try a Serial to blue...   Apr 30 2017, 11:30 PM
McMark   Those match my settings. I know Zach's tired ...   May 1 2017, 05:51 AM
arvcube   I've had consistent connectivity success with ...   May 1 2017, 08:05 AM
Vacca Rabite   Built and configured the Serial to Bluetooth adapt...   May 2 2017, 11:51 AM
jpnovak   Are you running PortCheck at the same time as tryi...   May 2 2017, 07:29 PM
Vacca Rabite   Are you running PortCheck at the same time as try...   May 4 2017, 07:37 AM
Vacca Rabite   Bit the bullet and bought one of the refurbished D...   May 29 2017, 10:10 PM
Vacca Rabite   I got the VW air valve, and am looking forward t...   Jun 1 2017, 06:57 AM
Vacca Rabite   The Dell laptop with the native serial port came i...   Jun 6 2017, 07:36 AM
Dtjaden   The Dell laptop with the native serial port came ...   Jun 6 2017, 05:04 PM
Vacca Rabite   I've gone round and round with the ECU connect...   Jun 12 2017, 07:05 PM
hot_shoe914   That's why you can't get shit done!   Jun 12 2017, 10:42 PM
Dr Evil   Did you turn it off and turn it on again?? :confus...   Jun 13 2017, 03:41 PM
Spoke   What version of Windows are you running? We'v...   Jun 13 2017, 09:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   What version of Windows are you running? We...   Jun 15 2017, 07:23 AM
McMark   I still have the three spare tester units. I can ...   Jun 15 2017, 07:25 AM
Vacca Rabite   I still have the three spare tester units. I can...   Jun 15 2017, 07:42 AM
bigkensteele   What version of Windows are you running? We...   Jun 15 2017, 07:37 PM
Spoke   Zach, about loading a program in Windows 10, I des...   Jun 15 2017, 07:01 PM
Dtjaden   Zach, Did you check the cable and baud rate as I s...   Jun 16 2017, 10:41 AM
Vacca Rabite   Zach, Did you check the cable and baud rate as I ...   Jul 6 2017, 10:52 AM
Vacca Rabite   And the verdict is... The coms ground pin on the ...   Jul 6 2017, 10:35 AM
crash914   Peter is one of the good guys. Been around quite ...   Jul 6 2017, 10:44 AM
Mblizzard   I have to send mine in to be fixed as well. But i...   Jul 6 2017, 10:58 AM
McMark   Wow. Did he mention if there was a reason? I sho...   Jul 6 2017, 12:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   Wow. Did he mention if there was a reason? I sh...   Jul 9 2017, 09:01 AM
Vacca Rabite   So a brief update and a little progress. I've...   Sep 12 2017, 07:26 AM
crash914   Great news! I will assist if needed. We will ...   Sep 12 2017, 09:02 AM
Vacca Rabite   baby steps to progress. Today I bit the bullet an...   Sep 13 2017, 01:59 PM
Vacca Rabite   Now that I am following this train of thought... I...   Sep 13 2017, 02:10 PM
Vacca Rabite   Its incredible how this drags. I had sent the har...   Apr 5 2018, 02:40 PM
Porschef   We still have salt on the roads here, and the f...   Apr 6 2018, 04:19 AM
crash914   get yours done and I will finish mine...lets go fo...   Apr 5 2018, 07:24 PM
Vacca Rabite   get yours done and I will finish mine...lets go f...   Apr 6 2018, 07:56 AM
Vacca Rabite   Fuel pump arrived this weekend. But, well, life. ...   Apr 15 2018, 09:11 PM
bulitt   :trophy: Like eating an Elephant. However some ...   Apr 16 2018, 05:10 AM
Mblizzard   While it is frustrating when you don't have ti...   Apr 16 2018, 06:49 AM
Vacca Rabite   Been working on the car in little bites. The gas...   Jul 17 2018, 08:26 PM
McMark   I looked back but couldn't find any info in th...   Jul 18 2018, 05:04 AM
Vacca Rabite   I looked back but couldn't find any info in t...   Jul 18 2018, 07:28 AM
peteyd   Zach, check out my solution for the AAR. Post 49 ...   Jul 18 2018, 01:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   Tank went back in last night. Front end of the ca...   Jul 19 2018, 07:21 AM
crash914   great news! Mine is running. I went for tuni...   Jul 19 2018, 10:54 AM
Vacca Rabite   Well. Damn. I’m glad I only put 2 gallons of ...   Jul 20 2018, 01:10 PM
saigon71   UGH! Keep battling bro. You are close to the...   Jul 20 2018, 01:25 PM
Vacca Rabite   Back in the garage. Hose popped off the pressure p...   Jul 20 2018, 01:40 PM
76-914   Zach. if you have a flaring tool put a very small ...   Jul 20 2018, 02:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   qKDxqJunbqI Its running! We are back to the p...   Jul 20 2018, 10:02 PM
JamesM   Its running! We are back to the point we wer...   Jul 23 2018, 12:07 AM
Vacca Rabite   I found a new Terry throttle cable in my parts sta...   Jul 22 2018, 09:58 AM
billh1963   Started to get on you about jack stands...but, now...   Jul 22 2018, 02:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   I was using two pin type jack stands and the jack ...   Jul 22 2018, 09:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   Got the hose Barbs from Mark @ Original Customs fo...   Jul 29 2018, 06:40 PM
McMark   Pins are numbered 1-2-3 The center pin (2) is the...   Jul 30 2018, 06:20 AM
Vacca Rabite   Excellent. Just picked up a 40ohm 50watt resistor...   Jul 30 2018, 01:03 PM
Vacca Rabite   Just took the car for a 10 mile spin. Clearly I ...   Aug 1 2018, 04:09 PM
saigon71   :beer2:   Aug 2 2018, 05:37 AM
Vacca Rabite   Mark (or anyone really) Have you played with the I...   Aug 2 2018, 10:00 AM
crash914   Zach, I have used both the head temp sensor and oi...   Aug 2 2018, 10:37 AM
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