 HELP: Removing Axle's/CV joints from trailing arms, what tricks or secrets in removing them? I can't get mine off...Grrrr |
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| Jeffs9146 |
 Oct 28 2011, 10:57 AM
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Ski Bum  Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128  |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 28 2011, 11:09 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,301 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Oct 28 2011, 11:56 AM)  I wrap a comealong around the axel and the trailing arm on the other side. Add tension and tap around the cv edge with a long chisel and hammer. Add more tension and do it again. It will pop off! Another excellent method. Thanks Jeff. |
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| Tom |
Oct 28 2011, 12:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
Call Mike, hasn't he done this?
Pretty sure you can remove the whole axle without hurting the bearings. It is when you remove the hub that the bearings are damaged. Those nuts can be hard to break loose! With the car up in the air, be very careful applying force to them. Impact wrench would probably be best. Block those front wheels front and rear to keep the car from trying to roll. Tom |
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| stugray |
Oct 28 2011, 03:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
"Pretty sure you can remove the whole axle without hurting the bearings."
Oh, that's right, the axle slides through the hub, and removing the hub is where you can damage the bearings. I forgot. So either my memory isnt so good, or my car has been on jackstands for too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Stu |
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| Mr.242 |
Oct 29 2011, 11:26 AM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:56 AM) I wrap a comealong around the axel and the trailing arm on the other side. Add tension and tap around the cv edge with a long chisel and hammer. Add more tension and do it again. It will pop off! Tried this....feared the trailing arms were going to bend! Didn't come off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I will try the 90 degree slamming...at this pont what do I have to lose Finally, I only want the half shafts off. NOT the entire stub. |
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| Jeffs9146 |
Oct 29 2011, 11:51 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE(Mr.242 @ Oct 29 2011, 10:26 AM) QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:56 AM) I wrap a comealong around the axel and the trailing arm on the other side. Add tension and tap around the cv edge with a long chisel and hammer. Add more tension and do it again. It will pop off! Tried this....feared the trailing arms were going to bend! Didn't come off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I will try the 90 degree slamming...at this pont what do I have to lose Finally, I only want the half shafts off. NOT the entire stub. Patience and tap and turn, tap and turn, tap and turn! A long chisel and a 5lb sludge hammer with the come along has worked for me at least 6 times on 3 different cars! |
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| zx-niner |
Oct 29 2011, 12:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(jcd914 @ Oct 28 2011, 08:48 AM) QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 28 2011, 08:38 AM) He is just trying to separate the CV from the stub axle, so the axle does not need to come out. Some will cring at this but... After the all the bolts on the outer joint are loose or out I usually just take the inner joint raise it up and slam it down, turn the wheel 90degrees and repeat. Inner joint pops loose fairly quickly. Jim This is how I've done it, especially if you are going to rebuild or replace the CV joints. |
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| Dr Evil |
Oct 29 2011, 12:15 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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The only thing holding it on at this point are two roll pins and friction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Stop being such a puss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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| Mr.242 |
Oct 29 2011, 12:48 PM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Oct 29 2011, 11:15 AM) The only thing holding it on at this point are two roll pins and friction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Stop being such a puss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Big and sloppy to be exact. So stop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) my puss! |
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| Mr.242 |
Nov 28 2011, 10:26 AM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well they are OFF.
I had to have Mike come over with his impact wrench and remove the entire stub axle. Then pound the crap out of them to separate the two pieces. All those other methods didn't work and after the fact I learned they were NEVER going to work. But I appreciate the advice and knowledge. So off and cleaned up. The car is closer to be shipped to the body shop for paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Still on track to win this bet of 3rd weekend in June to finish this car! I just need $$$$$..... |
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| 6freak |
Nov 28 2011, 10:52 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
he just needed to call big brother with the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...it was easy ...and there not roll pins ....there steel dowels
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| tradisrad |
Nov 28 2011, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Oct 28 2011, 08:27 AM) QUOTE(jcd914 @ Oct 28 2011, 10:48 AM) QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 28 2011, 08:38 AM) He is just trying to separate the CV from the stub axle, so the axle does not need to come out. Some will cring at this but... After the all the bolts on the outer joint are loose or out I usually just take the inner joint raise it up and slam it down, turn the wheel 90degrees and repeat. Inner joint pops loose fairly quickly. Jim I might just give that a try next time Jim. That is what I've done. Paint the 1/2 shaft when they are disassembled. Mine are green to match the car... |
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| 6freak |
Nov 28 2011, 01:39 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[ the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
just so ya know a Dewalt 18V 300lbs torque impact...spun them off dry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif) |
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| JRust |
Nov 28 2011, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(6freak @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 AM) [ the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) just so ya know a Dewalt 18V 300lbs torque impact...spun them off dry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif) Hey Big Mike is back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . I haven't seen you post in ages my friend. Glad to see you helping that slacker brother of yours. Maybe now he can get his 6 done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| tod914 |
Nov 28 2011, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Alittle late to respond. But, after struggeling with this myself on a previous car, found a way that's pretty easy. After your 4 bolts are out, take a long thick phillips head screwdriver and put it into one of the bolt holes and wobble the crap out of it. It will rock the cv joint out. Not too bad to do. I found it easier to slide the cv boot up the shaft, and removed the inner cv with shaft from outward cv, before using the phillips. I suppose either way will work.
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Nov 28 2011, 06:00 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(6freak @ Nov 28 2011, 08:52 AM) he just needed to call big brother with the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...it was easy ...and there not roll pins ....there steel dowels He really just needed to stop being such a Nancy boy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gayfight.gif) luv ya buddy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Mr.242 |
Nov 28 2011, 08:20 PM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(PeeGreen 914 @ Nov 28 2011, 04:00 PM) QUOTE(6freak @ Nov 28 2011, 08:52 AM) he just needed to call big brother with the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...it was easy ...and there not roll pins ....there steel dowels He really just needed to stop being such a Nancy boy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gayfight.gif) luv ya buddy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yea....that was it. I had my big girl pants on and couldn't get it out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (That's what she said....!) You would think 6Freak is a tool salesman who wanted me to buy the impact wrench the way he showed up and took care of the removal. The car is now stripped and ready to go off to be cleaned up and painted..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Anyone want to buy a kidney so I can afford the misc. parts I need to put it back together? |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 28 2011, 08:27 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Mr.242 @ Nov 28 2011, 08:26 AM) All those other methods didn't work and after the fact I learned they were NEVER going to work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| Mr.242 |
Nov 28 2011, 10:35 PM
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May your glass be smaller so it's always FULL! Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 9,160 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 28 2011, 06:27 PM) QUOTE(Mr.242 @ Nov 28 2011, 08:26 AM) All those other methods didn't work and after the fact I learned they were NEVER going to work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Meaning: the bang the hell out of it. Pull on it with a come-along. Wiggle a screw driver in the mounting hole. I had to remove the whole assembly. When it was out, I still had a very difficult time to separate them. Thus "I learned they were NEVER going to work". (see above) Because even out of the car..... It took a great deal of effort to get the metal dowls to release into two pieces. sorry for any (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I will work on the grammar and will submit diagrams next time. |
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| 6freak |
Nov 29 2011, 08:55 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(JRust @ Nov 28 2011, 12:44 PM) QUOTE(6freak @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 AM) [ the right tools (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) just so ya know a Dewalt 18V 300lbs torque impact...spun them off dry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif) Hey Big Mike is back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . I haven't seen you post in ages my friend. Glad to see you helping that slacker brother of yours. Maybe now he can get his 6 done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) hi Jamie! Just been lay n low ...busy with home projects ...been see n chiroprator after the Gaylude got deep trunked (totaled) been busy with new DD putting struts and springs ..think i have it squared away now....and getting set up to do my new 2.4 build with side shift trans and TBD $$$ ......Anywho! helping Brother Mark when and were i can! but i told him to do it him self so he see`s every part and can inspect every part for himself and know where all parts go ...I will help more with the assembly of the car ......think`n its going to paint shop Monday the 5th ... back to the show,,,,hes been kick n ass lately on the car |
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