fiero vs. 914 Options

[Gearren]

My neighbor owns a stock 4 cylinder fiero and claims that his fiero can take out my 914/4 2.0 and that I need to get a good old fasion american car, what do you think.

[ejm]

What exactly does he mean by "take out"?

Off hand I would say you need a new neighbor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jeroen]

Tell him to get a Ferrari body kit, that'll make his F... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) even faster
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cheers,

Jeroen

[SirAndy]

What exactly does he mean by "take out"?

back into it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

find a windy backroad and show him some dust ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Andy

[vortrex]

from the numbers I found it could actually be a good drag race! I didn't think there were any cars as slow as a 914 but...

1984 pontiac fiero SE

0-60:
10.9

1/4 Mile:
17.8

[Ctrout]

I thought long and hard about the Fiat x1/9, Fiero, and 914 before I settled on the 914. As a result, I did much research on the performance and handling of all three. I think that the stock Fiero 4 cyl is probably a very close match for the 914. It was reported to hold .82g on the skidpad, 0-60 in about 11 seconds, and 1/4 mile in roughly 18 seconds. remember that these are only numbers and that driving ability plays a very large part as well. the course layout will likely favor one car or another as well. Good luck and make us proud. If he had the 88 Formula, you would get destroyed.

[Mueller]

and that I need to get a good old fasion american car, what do you think.

tell him that he needs to get one 1st (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The Fiero was a piss-poor attempt at building a sportscar (3 qrts of motor oil, what kind of piss-poor engineering is that???)....the last year of the V6's are okay (unless you have to give it a tune up), the 4 banger cars are a joke

[iamchappy]

Funny, my neighbor does have a fiero with the Ferrari body kit, his is a six that is all show no go, theres quite a few of them running around with V8's and grand national engines in them.
The 914 will out handle it, as far as acceleration I dont know.

[kc4ixi]

There are a lot of cars out there that might be faster than my 914, but there are very few that can out class my 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Let's see, Hmmmm, fiero or PORSCHE. I know my choice.

Robert

[Dave_Darling]

The Fiero was a piss-poor attempt at building a sportscar (3 qrts of motor oil, what kind of piss-poor engineering is that???)....

Interesting story on how the car came to be. Some Google research would probably get a better version for you, but...

One of the execs at GM wanted to build a lightweight good-handling mid-engine sports car. The word from the rest of GM management was, "no way, no how." So he sold it to them as a commuter car with good fuel economy, and left out all mentions of any kind of performance. He was given the go-ahead, but told that he had to use as many existing off-the-shelf parts as possible. Hence you get the suspension from a Chevy Citation (I think they used the front suspension on all four corners), crappy brakes, the miserable "Iron Duke" engine... And a zoomy plastic body that had lots of unrealized potential.

A number of years back, the local (Zone 7) PCA showed their Driver's Ed Ground School an in-car video from a car driving the "classic" line at Sears Point. The car was turning laps significantly faster than every then-current Porsche Club record at SP. The car? A full-on race-prepped Fiero. (Yeah, probably about as much "Fiero" in there as "914" in Brad's tube-frame car. But still....)

It's yet another story of a good idea being turned into excrement by a large committee. Which Detroit has historically been so very good at!!

--DD

[Rouser]

My neighbor owns a stock 4 cylinder fiero and claims that his fiero can take out my 914/4 2.0 ...

Take him out ...

Chances are, his 4-banger is in such sorry state (by now, most of them are) that you'll wave him by rather than see him throw a rod.

I've run into the occasional POS Fiero who thought he "had the time" ("You gonna clean MY clock? Yeah, right ..."); even gave a Fiero 6er a run for his money. Pissed his pants thinking he could stay with me down a curving off-ramp; saw his ass-end comin' around and lifted off, almost grazing the guardrail.

Doubt he'll make THAT mistake again.

[seanery]

My dad had a Fiero when they were new. I had my first 914 at the same time. They were pretty similar performance-wise. He threw a rod and replaced the -4 with the GT's -6. Wow, it woke the car up nicely. Not as cool as a 914-6, but much better than the -4.

DD has the story right, they weren't to be sports cars, just nice looking affordable transpo.

I tried to convince my brother to get one a couple years ago when we were going out to Willow and BW frequently. I'm sure there are plenty of go-fast parts available now-adays for them.

[Joe Ricard]

Actually never even considered these cars as being in the same class. Hell even my 70 with a 1.7L would not have a problem whipping one of them ratted out POS.

The white dots alone are enough to scare em. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[rick 918-S]

Hmmm... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Porsche 911 type front suspension vs Chevy Chevette... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) rip off Triumph TR7 only (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) ugly and slow.

Think about it. Would you race your grandmother in her Chevette if you know she was 3 quarts low on oil? I think your nieghbor is a few quarts low.

Now if they would have used Corvette parts, that would have been apples to apples.


We have a saying around here when insulting someones car or actions.

It's like riding in a Fiero, there ain't no way to do it and cool at the same time.

Tell him to come around when he gets a real car.

[Mr.C]

About 11 years ago my dads buddy had a "Ferrari" with a turbo charged six. It was pretty fast i'll have to admit. I could never get him to admit though that it was a Fiero. To this day he still refers to it as his "Ferrari".

[IronHillRestorations]

My neighbor owns a stock 4 cylinder fiero and claims that his fiero can take out my 914/4 2.0 and that I need to get a good old fasion american car, what do you think.

You mean there is an actual running Fiero? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

PK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[EdwardBlume]

What does "Fiero" mean anyway? Like a flame? As in going down in? If a Fiero is so great.. why did they stop making them? (Nevermind)

[anthony]

Challenge your neighbor to attend the next SCCA autoX with you!

[thomasotten]

I remember when the Fiero first came out, they were really new and interesting looking. People would compare them to Ferarris. Kinda like the "in car" back then. Anyway, just ask your neighbor when the next Fiero club meeting is, that you would like to attend. Chances are, there isn't one. No interest in that car.

[Curvie Roadlover]

A Fiero was the first car I bought brand new, in 1985. It had the V 6 and it was pretty fast. Fun to drive. The engine blew up one day, putting a 4" hole in the block. The dealer said I was my falt 'cuz there was no oil in it. Hard to keep oil in an engine with a 4" hole in it. In order to make the engine fit in the space they had, the designers shaved off about an inch of the depth of the oil pan. When it was FULL of oil it was 2 quarts low!!! Also, whenever it rained, water would pool in the rim of the sunroof and when you hit the brakes you got a little shower.