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Removing rear window, any advice? |
jgiroux67 |
Aug 13 2004, 12:03 AM
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Guitar Shredder Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Turlock, CA Member No.: 2,157 |
Whats the best way to remove the rear window without breaking it?
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Jeroen |
Aug 13 2004, 05:24 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Be gentile and patient, just like when... ah, never mind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
cheers, Jeroen |
1bad914 |
Aug 13 2004, 05:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Battle Creek, MI Member No.: 2,028 |
Poke a guitar string or wire thru the sealant on the side and carefully saw it back and forth to release the sealant. Have someone keep a hand on it while you do this. Just be gentle, it will not just fall out, you have to help it out.
Good luck, Randy |
tdgray |
Aug 13 2004, 06:34 AM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
GO to your FLAPS and get some piano wire AND a windshield knife. Be very gentle and go slow. Always helps to have an extra pair of hands also.
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watsonrx13 |
Aug 13 2004, 07:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
Have you removed everything that borders the glass?
For the minimum you should have removed the back pad, targa top pad and both targa side pads. You can leave the insulation pad in, to remove the glass, but it has been recommend to remove this pad and NOT replace it. BTW, when you remove the insulation pad there will be glue left over on the firewall. Since the back pad will cover this, you could leave the glue, but hey, since you're in there, why not just clean it up also and not leave it for the next owner to fix. I just removed my glass last weekend, so here's a shot interior with the glass still attached. It wasn't difficult for me to remove the glass, I just pushed the glass on the bottom, into the car from the engine compartment, with one hand on each side. The glass is actually held in by the butyl tape, nothing else, ie, no clips. Good luck and remember, this is glass, it is breakable and it is slightly heavy, so be ready. Attached image(s) |
Joe Bob |
Aug 13 2004, 08:45 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
BFH and a shopvac?
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Eric_Shea |
Aug 13 2004, 08:50 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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Rob's got it. Take out the back pad, side pads and top pad. Remove what's left of the electrical tape on the bottom edge. The widow should be sitting on 3 rubber cushions (each about 2" long) on the bottom. Butyl tape (and those pads) is all that holds it in. Have a new roll of butyl tape ready before you begin. Most places don't stock it. I got mine (#4196) from NAPA. They had to special order it and it was in the next day. $11.95 or something like that. Being a guitarist by trade I can tell you that the knife works better than the strings, especially on stubborn windows (e.g.: my broken windshield). The rear should not be stubborn unless someone else has already been in there. It should simply pop out into the passengers compartment. If it rattles then it's loose and will basically fall out when you get the pads off. Be careful... Does your rubber seal to the engine lid need to be replaced? Now's the time. There's another $45.00 (I'm good at spending money) |
watsonrx13 |
Aug 13 2004, 09:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Eric.
BTW, get the 1/4" butyl tape, not the normally stocked 3/8" or 1/2" tape, they're too wide. Eric, one of these days, maybe one of my several annual trips to Vegas, we'll need to meet to exchange tips. I follow your post with great anticipation. |
jgiroux67 |
Aug 13 2004, 12:59 PM
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Guitar Shredder Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Turlock, CA Member No.: 2,157 |
Is there a cheaper option for the window to engine lid seal? It seems like it is just glued on to the window.
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jgiroux67 |
Aug 14 2004, 11:22 PM
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Guitar Shredder Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Turlock, CA Member No.: 2,157 |
Removal was a success. I used a trolling motor cable(my dad is a boat guy) to slice between the window and the tape/glue.
Thanks everyone! So does anybody know a good/cheap replacement for the seal between the window and engine lid? |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Aug 15 2004, 10:32 AM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(watsonrx13 @ Aug 13 2004, 07:15 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Eric. BTW, get the 1/4" butyl tape, not the normally stocked 3/8" or 1/2" tape, they're too wide. Eric, one of these days, maybe one of my several annual trips to Vegas, we'll need to meet to exchange tips. I follow your post with great anticipation. What is the stock width? Too small width may affect the holding ability of the glass. I haven't gotten to this part (yet) but just something where size could make a difference... |
StratPlayer |
Aug 15 2004, 11:48 AM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,275 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Glad this thread poped up,, I'm going to tackle the rear window job this upcoming week. I already have the butyl tape and its time to get the rear window resealed. Thanks all for the great advice on how this process is done.
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Eric_Shea |
Aug 15 2004, 02:18 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks Rob,
We should hook up. I may be in the Phoenix area soon... hurry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Jim, stop by. I'm about ready to put the interior back in. Almost done! Stock Butyl looks to be 1/4" as rob mentioned. It may even be smaller as that's the width of it after it's been smashed down. Regarding the seal. It's pretty specific. It has a metal channel molded into the rubber. This metal channel fits snuggly into a metal channel on the body. I think it expensive but necessary. If you think $11 bucks for tape and $45 bucks for the seal you've effectively (properly) fixed your rear window for $60 bucks (shipping etc.) Not a bad investment. |
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