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> Check out my new flares!, Fine Mexican craftsmanship
John Kelly
post Aug 17 2004, 11:08 AM
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DR Evil, You got a great deal on your flares, and they look really nice! For anyone else considering flares, the best way to flare a 914 with the style of flares in this thread is to stretch the existing sheet metal. The method of cutting and welding was a decent choice for do-it-yourselfers, but with the stretching method there is no reason to do all that welding, grinding, and filling. I think a near novice body man using the stretch technique will turn out a superior job to a pro doing the cut, weld, and mud technique. As I've said before, I will help anyone who decides to do this method with tips on how to go about it...the video is still being worked on...arrgghhh! For those who have not seen them, here are my 914 flare albums:

http://allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/comm...d=9980138836765

http://allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/comm...d=9980160442904

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post Aug 17 2004, 12:14 PM
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Great pics on that site.... How do you do the final smoothing? Is any filler used?
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post Aug 17 2004, 12:32 PM
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There is only a small amount of filler if any just to smooth out the imperfections. The way mine was done was a combination between what andys posted and this picture. Mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) I'll show you classy! Just kiddin ya man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Aug 17 2004, 12:37 PM
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Oh ya, no doubt that John Kelly is THE MAN! I do hate some of my neighbors, but I feel that beating out my own fenders would have caused them to get the city interested in my back yard again <_<
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post Aug 17 2004, 12:38 PM
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post Aug 17 2004, 03:31 PM
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Here's another fabricated steel reaer flare
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post Aug 17 2004, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 17 2004, 10:32 AM)
There is only a small amount of filler if any just to smooth out the imperfections. The way mine was done was a combination between what andys posted and this picture. Mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) I'll show you classy! Just kiddin ya man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

BTW, Who did the work in Mexico?

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post Aug 17 2004, 03:43 PM
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Andys, That cut up fender looks like Richard Fishers car. Richard has a nice V8 car with ove 500hp and solid. I like the stretched one best, I've always been into stretching things like money, women, cars,ect
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post Aug 17 2004, 03:44 PM
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post Aug 17 2004, 04:34 PM
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Now, if only this could be done in metal...

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post Aug 17 2004, 05:01 PM
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My car came with SC flares - bodywork done by Beach Boy Racing in So. Cal.

I love the look (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


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post Aug 17 2004, 05:03 PM
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post Aug 17 2004, 06:39 PM
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I do like the SC flares the best. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 17 2004, 07:07 PM
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Looks just like mine (SC flares), and I like the look alot also (unbiased opinion) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . I still need to hammer out the front fenders to get the 205's to clear...well, and reinstall the engine/tranny...and fab a new wiring harness...and reinstall the interior...etc., etc., etc.

But other than putting her back together, she's ready to hit the road (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 17 2004, 07:25 PM
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I also like the SC flares. Where other than an sc would one buy a set?
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post Aug 17 2004, 07:34 PM
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Just like this. I love this look  Same wheels, 9" with 255 in back and 7.5" with 225 in front. No spacers needed if you use the 23mm and 17mm offset ones.


Did you test fit them yet or just crossing your fingers that they'll fit??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I also like the SC flares. Where other than an sc would one buy a set?


the dealer might have them, or try the normal Porsche on-line places.....I've seen them in steel (factory) and fiberglass....
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post Aug 17 2004, 07:43 PM
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Mike,
I left them with the shop for propper fit. They just clear every dimention. If I have to I will only use 1/4" spacers on the backs. It is possible that the dimentions will change slightly when I have the engine and tranny installed.

For SC flares try http://www.rennspd.com/Products.asp?Task=S...ModID=4&catID=7
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post Aug 17 2004, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(GTeener @ Aug 17 2004, 03:01 PM)
My car came with SC flares - bodywork done by Beach Boy Racing in So. Cal.

I love the look  B)

I'm a bit partial to them myself... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Actually your car inspired me to do mine (back when John posted it for sale and you bought it). Soon now, very soon.

Gary's with SC flares
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post Aug 18 2004, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Verruckt @ Aug 17 2004, 02:34 PM)
Now, if only this could be done in metal...

(IMG:http://www.ultimate914.com/MOTORSPORTS_WE/photo_1/IMAG0000.JPG)

It can be done in metal...just bring cash!

SC bubble type flares can be done using the stretching technique as well. But they are a more difficult design to get right...not the work itself, but deciding exactly what shape to make.

About filler, anyone with the patience to do the work can make flares using little or no filler. The difference between a 1/16th-1/8" of filler in a few spots, and no filler at all is many hours of raising small low spots and smoothing, light filing, checking shape...repeat. If the flares are welded on, you have to stretch the weld area back up....then smooth, check for lows and repeat as necessary. Welding shrinks the area. That is why a welded pie cut section is a lot of work. Mig welding makes for even more work as the weld needs grinding and is difficult to stretch compared to gas or tig.

The answer on how to get the metal smooth during and after the stretching is using a hammer and dolly. When the lumps from stretching are large and irregular, you start with soft blows of the hammer, and increase the hardness of the blows as the metal gets flatter...keep hammering and the metal does get smooth. The more you do it, the better you get at it.

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post Aug 18 2004, 09:45 AM
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John,

You should be on "Rides"! What's the amount of time a novice may take to stretch the fender for each flare? Isn't the more difficult part making them symetrical?

I appreciate your promotion of the craft and I'm still interested in your time for the "winter" project.

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