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post Dec 21 2011, 10:15 PM
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I think Porsche should come out with a retro model 914. I mean the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang have taken off big time. Dodge is even coming out with a retro Dart from what I hear.

How cool would it be if they made a retro 914. Hell they probably would all be 6 cylinders at least. Can you imagine what it would look like. I bet it would be pricy.
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:16 PM
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:25 PM
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You mean like this artist's deception from R&T in Sept 2009?

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Unfortunately Porsche & VW have gone towards a retro 550 Spyder concept for their new "baby Porsche" - apparently scared off by their misconception that their 914 was a "failure"?? Target date last I heard was 2015 MY, with the Cajun for 2013 (the baby Cayanne SUV).

- and it will probably have a base engined high powered 4 banger - not a bad deal with a lower weight advantage; and maybe an up model with a 6.

... sound familiar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Go to the PCA website & browse the more recent articles on it there.
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:33 PM
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That is a cool looking picture of what could be. I mean with today's technology I can only imagine what it could do even if a 4 cyl.
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(914.SBC @ Dec 21 2011, 08:33 PM) *

That is a cool looking picture of what could be. I mean with today's technology I can only imagine what it could do even if a 4 cyl.


They're talking about a 250+ HP & TQ flat 4 for the new Baby Porsche & for the next gen Boxster/Cayman, which should scream & be both a bit more fun & attainable.

Unfortunately it won't have this 914 Retro look with roll bar & targa top & 2 big trunks, but a 550 is nice looking & a middie too!

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post Dec 21 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(914.SBC @ Dec 21 2011, 08:15 PM) *

I think Porsche should come out with a retro model 914. I mean the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang have taken off big time. Dodge is even coming out with a retro Dart from what I hear.

How cool would it be if they made a retro 914. Hell they probably would all be 6 cylinders at least. Can you imagine what it would look like. I bet it would be pricy.


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1 Gremlin
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3 Vega maybe Kcar?
Maybe Monza? Imported from Detroit!
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:12 PM
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I agree that any retro Porsche would be great...at a reasonable price. But the Camaro, Challenger etc. weren't Red-headed step children (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

No offence to red heads.


PS Boxster = 550 in my eyes
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:14 PM
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I think they make more profit from high end cars than lower priced more affordable cars. Their whole image and rep. is fast and expensive cars. You remember what happened when VW tried making a large luxurious car? I would like to see Porsche re-make a 914 or 914 like car but I don't see it happening. It might be small with a 4 cyl. turbo diesel... but it will be really expensive.

Cheers, Elliot
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:01 AM
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PS Boxster = 550 in my eyes


Then you need glasses. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Put the two next to each other, and the Boxster looks immense and massively bloated and overweight. It looks too heavy, regardless of the actual weight!

The 550 is one of the best looking cars ever built, IMHO. The Boxster is a decent-looking car, but nowhere near as nice as a 550.

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post Dec 22 2011, 12:18 AM
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:41 AM
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Dave K's pic hit it spot on. Now that's something I'd buy. Having said that, no modern car will have the same character as a 914. I love how raw my '74 feels. It's a pleasure to be so connected to a vehicle when sitting behind the wheel.... for better (wow, did I really go that fast around that corner?) or worse (where's 4th gear again?)

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post Dec 22 2011, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Dec 21 2011, 09:14 PM) *

I think they make more profit from high end cars than lower priced more affordable cars. Their whole image and rep. is fast and expensive cars. You remember what happened when VW tried making a large luxurious car? I would like to see Porsche re-make a 914 or 914 like car but I don't see it happening. It might be small with a 4 cyl. turbo diesel... but it will be really expensive.

Cheers, Elliot


There are 2 basic business reasons to produce it Elliot:

1. Get new future Porsche owners into the fold with entry car in the $45k price that the Boxster started at, with the mind that they will eventually buy-up in the line - as many 912, 914, 924, etc. initial owners have.

2. To balance out their fleet-wide fuel mpg performance under the newer & stricter upcoming CAFE standards (USA & Euro), so that they can keep building the really hot-rod 911 GT2/3s, etc. in lower numbers with higher prices & margins.

It's a proven business formula followed by most major auto manufacturers at all price levels, respective to to each one price ranges of course. Look at BMW's 3 series & now 1 Series, or inter-marque move-up in the GM or Ford lines; as well as their reliance on econo-boxes for CAFE evening out - and formerly their extensive use of truck & SUVs which were formerly almost entirely exempt under the old outgoing CAFE standards here n the USA.

Whether it diesel or gas powered is immaterial, as the fuel choices will ebb & flow with availability and technology, eventually with both employing more hybrid and other means to improve fuel efficiency.

Porsche reps. have essentially stated the 2 reasons above in what little press releases they have put out on the baby Porsche and Cajun.
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post Dec 22 2011, 02:06 AM
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Wow, that really is nice! I think that could work.
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post Dec 22 2011, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(cwpeden @ Dec 21 2011, 11:12 PM) *

I agree that any retro Porsche would be great...at a reasonable price. But the Camaro, Challenger etc. weren't Red-headed step children (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

No offence to red heads.


PS Boxster = 550 in my eyes


http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!ED...achter/TheDean/

Porsche Boxter "The Dean" 550 recreation. Saw this at Amelia Island Concourse D'elegance some years ago. Don't think it went over too well...
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post Dec 22 2011, 04:36 AM
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The Dean, The nose is ugly, extended to far. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Tho still a 914 ,this one is pretty sweet.


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post Dec 22 2011, 07:27 AM
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That black car is very sweet! Any details on it's build?
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post Dec 22 2011, 07:39 AM
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The Boxster run will die. Even if they refresh it, it will become a tired line.

The problem with a new 914 is that the cars are just too small. I thought the new CRZ would be a huge hit, but the size is just off.

Porsche is also selling a ton of 4 doors these days.

The only shot I see of a Porsche 914 is another cobranded VW offering.
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post Dec 22 2011, 07:43 AM
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I know Mark Schlachter. And I just saw this boxster in person just two weeks ago here is Cincinnati. The man who owns the car is named Dean. It was created from the owners wishes and dreams, and was metal worked by Mark. The front fenders are not Aluminum, they are all one pc steel. Hand formed over his knee, and butt welded on. The 996 shown was not there and i agree that the 996 is very fugly...but the boxster in person is very becoming. At first you don't realize what has been done to it until you stare for a minute or two. The seats were restitched by Ruf in Germany, cause Porsche said that they only make them in black. And one last note after the car was shown in Germany, Porsche sent a letter telling them not to make any more like this because the new boxster was going to have more round headlights at the time when this was finished.
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post Dec 22 2011, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Dec 22 2011, 05:27 AM) *

That black car is very sweet! Any details on it's build?

It was recently for sale.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=133115

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=118520
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Dec 22 2011, 07:27 AM) *

That black car is very sweet! Any details on it's build?


That black 914 is by far my dream 914. It was on ebay a few months ago and didn't sell at $52,600
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