914-6 conversion question, what else do I need? Options

[Mr_Chu]

Ok, so I have a 914 and also a 911SC. I am going to throw in the 3.0-liter motor into my 914.

I have to change the oil tank, I have to do the ring and piston thing, motor mounts, heat exchangers and new oil lines and stuff. What else do I need to do?

I know I have to upgrade suspension and braking, but what else do I need in order to swap motors and tranmission? Do I need to modify anything else? I pretty much have all the pieces to do the conversion, the problem I'm having is actually starting!

Any comments, suggestions, or missing parts I might need to do the full swap?

This conversion is starting to be a nightmare and its also costing me a pretty penny! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Also, thanks for the guys that gave me some pointers earlier. That really helped me out!

[Cap'n Krusty]

Gonna have to figure out a way to mount that 915 tranny. The front cover doesn't have provisions for top mounting. IME, cash out of your pocket, not including the engine, will run $3-4K, and the mention of "rings" indicated another $2-5K, or even a LOT more, if you want it done right. The Cap'n

[ArtechnikA]

Gonna have to figure out a way to mount that 915 tranny. The front cover doesn't have provisions for top mounting. ...

IIRC, the nose cone part of the WEVO sideshift kit includes proper 914 mounts.
it ain't cheap, but it's the way to do this right.

i -think- the 'ring' referenced earlier was just the R&P flip, not engine top-end stuff. but i could be wrong on that - i haven't been scrutinising every post in the thread ...

[Cap'n Krusty]

OK. Flip the ring gear, "freshen the trans (including the 2nd gear "fix") and repair the inevitable loose bearings in the housing, $2k, plus the nose cover kit. Add that to the $3 to5K for the incidentals, and you get $5-7K and you still have to do the brakes, reinforce the tub, and (probably, in this case) pay someone to do the actual conversion. Having done this thing several times, I can tell you that it's ALWAYS more expensive than you think, and ALWAYS takes FAR more time than you anticipate. Given the ALL parts are on hand, the motivation is there (together with the expertise), and you have 2 or 3 open weeks of uninterrupted time available, you could get it done right in a month. The Cap'n

[Brad Roberts]

That is why I like Larson..

Yes. Figure 4500$+ to properly build a 914/915 mid engine gearbox. It kinda depends on your core tranny and what condition it is in.


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[Brad Roberts]

Ha ha.. I went to page two on this thread first thinking that someone had covered everything with him..LOL


Mr Chu,

do you own a video editing company in Palo Alto ?

You can trade that SC in on EVERYTHING you need including a tall geared 901 and fuel injected 3.2 if you like... I have it for sale in the classifieds. Direct bolt in with everything you need.

I also stock everything that Rich Johnson sells... on a shelf... right now.. in Redwood city...



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[Mr_Chu]

hey brad.. I got your number from someone. I'll be giving you a call soon about some parts..

[seanery]

Hey Jon, if Brad is correct I'm an avid editor and graphic designer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
accepting resumes?

[Mr_Chu]

haha sorry guys.. I'm no owner. I'm just a college student trying to complete my project.

[Mr_Chu]

OH ya.. by the way im a college student with limtied funds.. places with great deals are a must!

[ArtechnikA]

there are always deals out there, but you have to find them, and you have to know what you want, and you have to be ready with cash when they come up.

look through the conversion threads - a full conversion can be done by someone with experience - and all the parts in hand - in 4-12 weeks of pretty concentrated work. you have to add the time you spend looking for parts deals to that.

[Mr_Chu]

hah 4-12 weeks? After double checking on all the parts I still need.. I think im looking at another 2 years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

[ArtechnikA]

hah 4-12 weeks? After double checking on all the parts I still need.. I think im looking at another 2 years!

yes - " with experience - and all the parts in hand " is the key phrase ...

this is one reason why we recommend that people get the engine LAST. or almost last.
there is a lot of dealing, scrounding, research, fabrication, and fitting that must be done first.
it makes no sense to tie up a big wad of cash up front and have the most expensive part sit for a long time (which does it no good...). do all that other stuff first, save your nickles and dimes, and as you grow closer to completion, when the right engine comes along (and there is a never-ending suply of them...) you'll be able to act on it.

[Mr_Chu]

hah.. well I already bought an engine. Well i actually bought the whole car.. i dont think it'll be that big of deal because the motor is still in my SC.. and it was a great deal.. I couldn't pass it up!

As for all the other stuff.. I think i need about another 4-5 grand to finish off buying the parts.

I'm getting the ring and pinion done soon. So thats a step! Once I come up with the money, I'm going to get the motor mount, sheet metal, and oil tank/lines for the car... but ya.. thats my plan.

But anyway.. here are the damn Fuch's I can't use.. cause of the damn 5-lug conversion.. even though i really really want to use it cause i spent a load of $ to fix them. Damn wasted money!

[ArtechnikA]

Damn wasted money!

money spent on quality parts is never wasted.

even if plans change (as in your case) there will *always* be someone looking for what you've got. e.g. a very nice set of polished 2,0 Fuchs ready-to-go.

truly defective parts need to hit the landfill so they don't become someone else's problem, but a surprising number of parts can be restored -- they aren't making most of this stuff any more.

you'd be amazed what some of the 356 guys will go through to bring back a part any 'normal' person would have gladly junked 40 years ago.

you'll find a buyed who wants those wheels and recoup your investment sooner or later.

[Mr_Chu]

ya "one man's junk is another man's treasure."

hopefully I can sell them and get back what I spent on them. I really wanted to use these rims on my car... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) But things change.