OT: Anyone ever heard of a 1982 Porsche 944, Special order with no sunroof & imported Options

[rick 918-S]

Cool! I hate 944's but I would buy that one just for the interior.

[mrgreenjeans]

What about those wheels? Did the base 944 come with those? They look like the wheels that were on my '89 S2. I thought most 944's came with Cookie Cutters?

The rims you have pictured are called Design 90 wheels, which Porsche placed on S2's and 911's of the 90's era cars. They were a cast alloy.There is also a similar looking wheel that Fuchs made, by machining larger openings in the face which closely resemble this wheel. The Fuchs are forged alloy tho and very strong in comparison.

The standard rims coming on 82 thru 85.1 cars were the black centered cookies.
Cookie Cutters were made by ATS and employed a cast manufacturing process. For 944's and 911's they were made in 6 and 7 by 15 inch and also came on 911's in an unpainted satin finish.

The 7 by 16 Fuchs , which I have on my early 82 build car also, were an option. Later an offering of 7 and 8 inch by 15 and 7 and 8 inch by 16 in color coded centers made an appearance. Black, white and platinum were the most commonly seen colors, but I have also seen red and yellow......do not think these were a factory option tho......but maybe were available thru the special wishes program Porsche offered.

The later wheel options also consisted of the phone dials and the flat faced Fuchs which were mostly seen on 924 Turbos, 944 S and 928's. This option came available with the different wheel back spacing found on 85.2 thru the end of the 944 lineup.
Hope this clarifies a few wheel answers on Cookies, Fuchs, and Design 90 wheels.

Don

[mrgreenjeans]

Cool! I hate 944's but I would buy that one just for the interior.

Too bad, and I must comment here , your loss.

I love ALL Porsches, and find the more diverse they have become, the more entertaining.

I thought long and hard on the Panamera and the Cayenne's role in society, but must say, they have their places, maybe not in my garage, just yet........

The 944 line has its detractors, but I will say, it led me to take a look at other models of Porsche lineage in comparison, and bang for the buck, are un-beatable in their merit / versus / cost / versus longevity. To say nothing of their undeniable road holding and track capabilities. I love our 2.0 teener, but have just as much love for my other Porsches......even the 944.

In many ways they are my most favorite Porsche. When we choose a long tour, involving more than 500 -1000 miles, I much rather drive a 44 than our 911 or the 914. When one gets out after a long drive, you feel like you could really start all over again.

mrgreenjeans

[JRust]

Yes he did replace the cookie cutters on the car. I have a set so that isn't a big deal. I still like the car but have decided not to pursue it. It's in Boise if anyone wants to go buy it. http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/2790524145.html . IT really is a cool looking 944. I'm just sticking to 914's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[Type 47]

Cool...I learned a few things with this thread.

after 2 914's I got a new 83 off the showroom floor. everyone else had a 9 month wait but we were able to convince the dealer that their demo with 4k miles on it needed to be replaced and cash (my dad's) prevailed.

In 83 944 was a "rock star" car...meaning that it got the looks from everyone. out of the 14 P cars I've owned, it was the only one that was not used.

Officially when I actually had my name on the title it was used...my dad was the one who did the deal with the dealer...but b/c my brother had a new 944 (he waited 9 months) and I was a poor dude trying to raise my dad's 2 grandkids, dad did a very kind, cool thing; he shared the car with me.

I had a set of keys and permission to drive it when my dad was at work...he worked the 2nd shift so I had access to it from about 2:00 pm to midnight everyday.

While I can appreciate someone who "hates" 944's. I not only like all Porsches, I like almost all cars. but the 1983 944 will always be a very special car to me.

[jasons]

What about those wheels? Did the base 944 come with those? They look like the wheels that were on my '89 S2. I thought most 944's came with Cookie Cutters?

My question about those wheels is, they are late offset? That offset didn't show up (in the US anyway), until 1987. As already stated (US) 83-86 had early offset Fuchs, Cookies, or Phone Dials. Those D90's would only fit on an early car with some spacers.

[JRust]

My question about those wheels is, they are late offset? That offset didn't show up (in the US anyway), until 1987. As already stated (US) 83-86 had early offset Fuchs, Cookies, or Phone Dials. Those D90's would only fit on an early car with some spacers.

He is running some spacers with those for sure

[mrgreenjeans]

What about those wheels? Did the base 944 come with those? They look like the wheels that were on my '89 S2. I thought most 944's came with Cookie Cutters?

My question about those wheels is, they are late offset? That offset didn't show up (in the US anyway), until 1987. As already stated (US) 83-86 had early offset Fuchs, Cookies, or Phone Dials. Those D90's would only fit on an early car with some spacers.

Yes, they would be probably a 55 ET , and the early cars wheels in OE fitment were at 10 front and 23 rear for offset. Meaning spacers to take the wheel out far enough to fill the wheel wells and not run too close to the brakes, tie rod ends, etc.

And it would look funny too, narrowing up the track of the car without the proper width achieved thru a spacer.

So, doing the math, 55 minus 23 and a guy would need 32mm for spacing. Requiring a longer bolt to safely do the correct torqueing in for the lug nut. The lug nuts need at least a 5-7 ??? turn down to safely secure the wheel to the hub. Please check the forum and the spec charts at your local wheel retailer to verify this info.....as I am shooting from the hip here ....close, as I recollect, but don't wish to mis-inform, just want to state that when a larger offset rim is placed on a earlier car, a guy has to be careful in the area of safety.
Its not all about the looks.

[wingnut86]

I was stationed stateside near a large military base in 1981-82. The used car lots were full of the nice Audi's, VWs, Porsches and Volvos.

In those days, guys would beg for a Germany assignment for the car options to ship back. Like Scotty said, not uncommon at all, especially then. Rare now, but common knowledge then...

The lots were loaded around the large East Coast bases for sure - I shopped till I went blind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

[veekry9]

Cool! I hate 944's but I would buy that one just for the interior.

I'm mildly surprised,
I had merely presumed a Porsche owner appreciated all things from their drawing boards.
I like to think of the 944 as similar to a Daytona Cobra,240Z or a 250GTO.
As an economy 4 seat sports tourer and seller for a decade,a success.



The Renegade conversions can be a monster GT.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/09/08/1-of-5...ts-lightweight/

More a treatise on why I like the 924/944/968 bloodline.