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> 914-6 transmission rebuild, Can I reuse the 1st gear
914Gelb
post Feb 8 2012, 03:06 AM
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Hello guys,

I've bought my car without any test drive because it was unsed many years. Now my transmission is on my todo list. I already opened the case to inspect the 1st gear. I saw a syncro ring which seems to be less used but the dog teeth and the slider speeks other words. My impression.. I have to change slider, dog teeth and syncro. I added some pictures, who can distinguish between poo parts and reusable ones.


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post May 23 2012, 02:56 PM
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Georg,

As Mike mentioned above, sometimes the ring section breaks off the syncho hub like yours did. Sometimes the hubs seem to be pressed onto the gear extremely tight (as if they have been welded, or as if someone used loctite).

When you use that tool you can either pound it off using a hammer or use a press. I like using the press (as you showed in your photo). However, I have a suspicion (can't say for sure) that for the ones that are on extremely tight, they are more likely to break if you use a press. I suspect that the hammer approach may help break something free without causing a stress fracture along the ring if you just keep applying pressure via a press. While I use the press on a regular basis, if I have one that is stubborn, I remove it from the press, give it a few hits with the hammer and then put it back on the press and give it a second try. I haven't done it enough to determine if this is helping or not as the vast majority of them pop off without requiring lots of pressure on the press.

If they the hub breaks, just grind a notch in like you did and the then it should split and come off. It's a pain, and takes a bit of work, but if you are careful it does no damage to the gear.

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914Gelb   914-6 transmission rebuild   Feb 8 2012, 03:06 AM
Dr Evil   Your slider looks fantastic. The gears show typica...   Feb 8 2012, 08:55 AM
Dr Evil   Oh, while you are in there, you should change out ...   Feb 8 2012, 08:56 AM
914Gelb   Oh, while you are in there, you should change out...   Feb 9 2012, 01:50 AM
jimkelly   no pic of a worn out slider but its the teeth, jus...   Feb 9 2012, 04:01 AM
914Gelb   I now know how new teeth should look like, but is ...   Feb 9 2012, 04:57 AM
Dr Evil   You can reuse teeth from other gears as long as yo...   Feb 9 2012, 12:39 PM
Dr Evil   As for wear limit, I do not know of an indicator. ...   Feb 9 2012, 12:41 PM
914Gelb   Hello I continued my transmission rebuild and ha...   May 14 2012, 11:49 PM
Dr Evil   That is toast. The race in the case should not mov...   May 15 2012, 06:50 AM
914Gelb   So, it'S not possible to get ring and pinion i...   May 15 2012, 07:04 AM
Richard Casto   Georg, Regarding the bore for the roller bearing,...   May 15 2012, 02:17 PM
Dr Evil   I agree that another core would be a better invest...   May 15 2012, 02:55 PM
914Gelb   Thanks for the answers! I also think it makes...   May 15 2012, 11:35 PM
Dr Evil   There is another alternative to changing cases. Th...   May 16 2012, 06:38 AM
914Gelb   I will measure the outer race of the bearing, do I...   May 20 2012, 01:24 PM
Dr Evil   Yes, the bearing should be replaced as a unit to b...   May 20 2012, 02:46 PM
914Gelb   Hello, I measured the ring 72.00mm!   May 23 2012, 01:03 PM
914Gelb   Next step of transmission rebuild, 1st gear dogtee...   May 23 2012, 01:21 PM
914Gelb   Next step installation of new dogteeht.   May 23 2012, 01:35 PM
914Gelb   Last step the check according the manual. Perfect....   May 23 2012, 01:45 PM
Dr Evil   Hey Georg, Great work. I have had only one ring b...   May 23 2012, 02:07 PM
Dr Evil   Did you need the smaller bearing that goes above t...   May 23 2012, 02:08 PM
Richard Casto   Georg, As Mike mentioned above, sometimes the rin...   May 23 2012, 02:56 PM
914Gelb   I continued my work with cleaning some parts of th...   May 27 2012, 01:50 PM
Dr Evil   I will go out and measure the bearing right now. I...   May 27 2012, 02:31 PM
914Gelb   That's fine, If I have all parts I will finish...   May 27 2012, 02:37 PM
914Gelb   I have to leave for today, I will anwser your mail...   May 27 2012, 02:41 PM
914Gelb   more pictures from my transmission rebuild. I made...   Sep 10 2012, 12:15 PM
914Gelb   2nd option of S&P setting. Pls. tell me y...   Sep 10 2012, 12:23 PM
914Gelb   I bought the tool (VW 385)to measure the pinion de...   Oct 11 2012, 12:53 AM
Cairo94507   That is a beautiful transaxle you have there. Con...   Oct 11 2012, 06:51 AM
rjames   wow. Nicely done!   Oct 11 2012, 10:43 AM
Dr Evil   Good job, Georg :thumbsup: What was the price for ...   Oct 11 2012, 11:25 AM
914Gelb   Hello, the price was match more than 400. The too...   Oct 11 2012, 11:13 PM
Cairo94507   ....oh no....he wants to see the Doc's tool......   Oct 12 2012, 06:43 AM
Dr Evil   My tool is made out of an old differential and was...   Oct 12 2012, 03:12 PM


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