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post Feb 14 2012, 08:00 AM
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I am planing on trying to tow a 914 with my 2010 Tacome 4cyl without towing package. It has a Curtis frame mounted hitch with a 2" ball. I was going to rent a uhaul full auto trailer. I don't want to be pushing the envelope. It will be mostly highway driving. Thanks
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post Feb 14 2012, 08:14 AM
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I am planing on trying to tow a 914 with my 2010 Tacome 4cyl without towing package. It has a Curtis frame mounted hitch with a 2" ball. I was going to rent a uhaul full auto trailer. I don't want to be pushing the envelope. It will be mostly highway driving. Thanks

IMO you will be pushing the envelope..and at freeway speeds no thanks ..take the back roads..Again JMO..
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post Feb 14 2012, 08:21 AM
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Probably no problem on level ground. It's hills, quick turns and sudden stops that you will wish you had a bigger, heavier truck with big brakes and tires. The smaller the truck, the more the trailer controls you.
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:03 AM
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Suggest you borrow a friends truck.
You do not have the brakes, power of heft to tow a 914 even if it is flat towed.

I once towed a 74 Super beetle (flat tow) with 93 Ranger 4.0L V-6. IT SUCKED and I will never do it again.
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:22 AM
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I wouldn't hesitate to tow a 914 behind my 2006 Tacoma but it is a 4.0L V6 with the tow package.......but not with a U-haul trailer.....them SOBs look like they out weigh the car. A tow dolly would be a beter choice.

Joe, a 2010 2.7L Tacoma is not a 93 Ranger POS. They both have 4 wheels but the similarity ends there.
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:47 AM
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I believe any Uhaul dealer performing due-diligence will not rent you the trailer. They normally inspect the tow vehicle and calculate tongue weight, payload, blah blah.
you may be able to rent the dolly. Go online to the uhaul site and you can input the info.
If you are set on renting a full trailer I would consider also renting the tow vehicle from Uhaul, it will save wear and tear on your vehicle.
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:30 AM
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Shoot, we used to tow a 3500# sea ray behind my friends 4Cyl 87 toyota 4X4, with no trailer brakes! Not the best, young and dumb, but we never had an issue. I remember once trying to follow him on a camping trip in my other friends Hyundai (original one in 87) and the truck with the boat and camping gear out ran us on every hill !
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:51 AM
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I have done heavier. You really can't push the speed at all. Your trailer load must be properly loaded. Towed the SVR-PCA trailer with a Tacoma and when the load was wrong, the trailer wagged the truck at anything over 55.

I would only do it as a one time event.
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post Feb 14 2012, 12:23 PM
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I have done heavier. You really can't push the speed at all. Your trailer load must be properly loaded. Towed the SVR-PCA trailer with a Tacoma and when the load was wrong, the trailer wagged the truck at anything over 55.

I would only do it as a one time event.



I agree with Rob.

Your teener is likely over 2,100#'s and the trailer is probably 1,500#'s, so you're right at the limit of that vehicle "with" a proper towing package installed.

So make sure the trailer has a set of trailer brakes that work. Wouldn't suggest any trip without the trailer brakes working.

Secondly as Rob suggested the load must be distributed correctly.

Third, go out with the loaded trailer and try the brakes at various speeds so you know what to expect.

Fourth: Stay away from everyone and keep the speed down.

If you can stay away from hills, i.e., not the place to learn that your trailer is improperly loaded or that the brakes aren't sufficient. The surprises (of course)happen on the downhill sections.

I had a heavy trailer start to push my GMC pickup on a downhill section when the trailer brakes failed. I did gather it up, but just barely - the entire exercise was very scary. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)





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post Feb 14 2012, 12:48 PM
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Even with a flat terrain you will be pushing it. I just brought back a 914 parts car on a uhaul trailer from Northern Alabama (close to Chattanooga)...the first 20 miles coming home had a series of steep hills and switchbacks....glad I had my 2006 turbodiesel F-250. I don't think a lesser truck would have made it. The uhaul trailer itself will be a load on a 4 cylinder.

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post Feb 14 2012, 04:42 PM
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Even with a flat terrain you will be pushing it. I just brought back a 914 parts car on a uhaul trailer from Northern Alabama (close to Chattanooga)...the first 20 miles coming home had a series of steep hills and switchbacks....glad I had my 2006 turbodiesel F-250. I don't think a lesser truck would have made it. The uhaul trailer itself will be a load on a 4 cylinder.

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F250 Turbo's work great anywhere, you hardly even know there is a trailer back there.

Only negative is the cost of fuel and that is only going to bet worse.
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post Feb 14 2012, 05:33 PM
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Well Thank you all for the great input. The car is 175 miles away and I thought I could do it myself. However, I guess I might be in over my head on this car for now. All 4 tires are flat, don't know if they will hold air, I expect the brakes are siezed, and I think I will have to hire a flat bed to drag it out of the garage and deliver it. The outer rockers are totally shot and there are some holes in the inners. The fenders have rust also. The good news is the pans look solid, the hell hole looks solid, the battery pan is almost solid. Car has been in storage since 1989. It is all there, even the expected mouse.


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post Feb 14 2012, 05:57 PM
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I hope the car was a freebie. I wouldn't pay a flatbed to move it that distance.
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post Feb 14 2012, 06:06 PM
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Unfortunately not a freebee - With flatbed I will be in around $2200
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:08 PM
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Ouch.....sounds like some of my mistakes
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:11 PM
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F250 Turbo's work great anywhere, you hardly even know there is a trailer back there.

Only negative is the cost of fuel and that is only going to bet worse.


Fuel will get worse, for sure. The good thing is I averaged 18 mpg towing the car back home. No gas powered truck will do that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:15 PM
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I own a V6, 4wd, 4 dr. Tacoma and have done it. Once, never again. Power to tow is there. It's the lack of adequate braking that scared me. A 4 cylinder would have neither the power or the brakes.
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:17 PM
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Well the mouse was cute.....
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:18 PM
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I am planing on trying to tow a 914 with my 2010 Tacome 4cyl without towing package. It has a Curtis frame mounted hitch with a 2" ball. I was going to rent a uhaul full auto trailer. I don't want to be pushing the envelope. It will be mostly highway driving. Thanks


Hey wndsnd:

I have the simple solution for you: Flat tow the 914! The cost of the towbar should be about equal to trailer rental for the time you use it.

I flat-towed my 510 Datsun racer for years behind my STOCK 510 Datsun wagon (4 spd).

Currently, I Flat-tow my 914 Racer behind my Kia Sorento (Automatic) but am careful to downshift on hills to use more revs rather than spin the torque-converter.

I'm guessing your Toyota is Auto and this approach should work for you!!!

Best of luck,
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post Feb 14 2012, 08:37 PM
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