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> Danica Patrick!, Takes Daytona 500 Pole
jeff
post Feb 24 2012, 09:13 PM
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Danica just grabbed the Pole for the Nationwide Daytona 500! She's got something tougher than balls,a vagina, those can take a pounding! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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post Feb 27 2012, 09:26 AM
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I tend to be a fan of drivers who falls into the “nice guy” category. They are not asses on or off track and tend to not run their mouth, stomp around or pout when things go badly. So because of her personality and antics, I am NOT a Danica fan.

But I always get a real kick out of the “anti-Danica” stuff on the various motorsports forums I visit. Particularly the “she is only here because she is a good looking women” and “I could beat her” comments.

Let’s take the good looking women part first. We need to first equally beat up on the vast majority of pro driver who are in the sport because they either have loads of family or sponsor money. She is really no different than someone who has hustled sponsorship and maybe better than someone who has cruised on family money. Sure it has been easier for her as she has played up her looks, but who wouldn’t take the easy route if it was presented to them? There is only a small handful of driver in any series who are pursued by the top teams and don’t have to bring personal or sponsor money to the table to drive. Even then, most (if not all) of this “cream of the crop” were initially noticed only because family or sponsorship money allowed them to participate enough at a lower level to be noticed by the bigger teams who have their own money. In short, if you are in the top levels of motorsport, family or sponsorship money had more to do with your climb upwards it than skill. Not that I am saying at all that skill is not required.

Then you have the issue of her skill. I do believe that “she has risen to her level of incompetence” (Google “Peter Principle”). In short, she has been promoted up until she can no longer succeed. But… she is participating at the top level and while she will most likely not significantly improve, don’t discount her ability. Yes, her marketability (i.e. ability to get sponsorship) has allowed her to cruse to the top, but you can’t just stuff anyone into a car, give them a wad of cash and then expect them to do well. You have to want to race and have skill. And to even participate and survive (not kill yourself) at that level you have to be more than be just “good”.

There have been plenty of others who have the heart and desire to be a pro racer, hustled the money together by mortgaging their house, etc. and have failed miserably due to more desire than talent. Most fall out at a much lower level. Some die trying. What is sad (and life is not fair) are those who do have true talent (and there are a lot out there) but are just are not able to get the money together to make it work. They do everything right, are good enough to win at the top level, but the dice just doesn’t roll their way.

So I have no doubt she is a racer at heart and I also have to accept the fact that she is likely to be better than me or anyone else on this forum. Granted, someone on this forum may secretly have Michael Schumacher skills (highly unlikely, but a possibility), but in general, I can do nothing but laugh at those who discount her skill by trying to pump up their own. Frankly, as someone pointed out earlier, it is nothing but envy and jealousy. Those who have raced her and have beat her have a real story to tell. Everyone else is just flapping their lips.

Sorry if this rubs some the wrong way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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jeff   Danica Patrick!   Feb 24 2012, 09:13 PM
balljoint   And there's a huge tribute thread to her in th...   Feb 24 2012, 09:30 PM
RobW   What pole? :)   Feb 24 2012, 09:40 PM
RobW   In the dictionary under "redundant" it s...   Feb 24 2012, 09:41 PM
Type 47   In the dictionary under "redundant" it ...   Feb 24 2012, 10:59 PM
euro911   When I read she took the pole, I thought ... Oh,...   Feb 24 2012, 11:11 PM
scott_in_nh   I like Danica and she is in the Daytona 500, but w...   Feb 24 2012, 11:22 PM
SLITS   Yep, starts last as she kinda tore up her original...   Feb 25 2012, 01:06 AM
ClayPerrine   Yep, starts last as she kinda tore up her origina...   Feb 25 2012, 07:56 AM
carr914   Yep, starts last as she kinda tore up her origin...   Feb 25 2012, 09:10 AM
SLITS   Well Clay ... the report that I read said she need...   Feb 25 2012, 09:11 AM
John   Yes, she is charismatic, yes she is a good driver....   Feb 25 2012, 06:20 PM
URY914   Yes, she is charismatic, yes she is a good driver...   Feb 25 2012, 07:01 PM
Racing916   I dont really care for Danica, but John she would ...   Feb 25 2012, 07:08 PM
carr914   She couldn't win an Indy Car Race if they her ...   Feb 25 2012, 07:24 PM
Racing916   Yeah but she still is a better driver then any of ...   Feb 25 2012, 08:06 PM
URY914   Yeah but she still is a better driver then any of...   Feb 25 2012, 10:32 PM
PeeGreen 914   Yeah but she still is a better driver then any o...   Feb 25 2012, 10:36 PM
sixnotfour   strategy   Feb 25 2012, 08:21 PM
jeff   Yes, it's true she would outrun ant of us with...   Feb 25 2012, 09:31 PM
GeorgeRud   As with all racing, power to weight ratio is her f...   Feb 25 2012, 10:12 PM
Elliot Cannon   Anger, jealousy, envy and resentment. This thread...   Feb 25 2012, 11:40 PM
euro911   I'm feeling a bit ambivalent on the subject :y...   Feb 26 2012, 01:00 AM
Racing916   Your right Ury914 just a stupid comment. :)   Feb 26 2012, 08:17 AM
6freak   JMO but none of use could keep up with that hot li...   Feb 26 2012, 10:14 AM
PeeGreen 914   I have to disagree Mike. There are guys on this bo...   Feb 26 2012, 11:44 AM
6freak   I have to disagree Mike. There are guys on this b...   Feb 26 2012, 05:57 PM
carr914   I have to disagree Mike. There are guys on this ...   Feb 26 2012, 08:30 PM
6freak   quote name='carr914' date='Feb 26 2012...   Feb 27 2012, 09:14 AM
URY914   She didn't hit the wall today. Oh wait, the...   Feb 26 2012, 08:32 PM
rdauenhauer   Talk about stupid comments. "Thats big boy ra...   Feb 27 2012, 01:35 AM
Richard Casto   I tend to be a fan of drivers who falls into the ...   Feb 27 2012, 09:26 AM
carr914   Talk about stupid comments. "Thats big boy r...   Feb 27 2012, 09:38 AM
scott_in_nh   Even if you want to dump her you have to get to he...   Feb 27 2012, 09:41 AM
URY914   I think that Danica the name brand has outgrown Da...   Feb 27 2012, 09:58 AM
scott_in_nh   I think that Danica the name brand has outgrown D...   Feb 27 2012, 10:26 AM
URY914   Looks like the race is due to start at 7:00 tonigh...   Feb 27 2012, 10:13 AM
carr914   I like Danica, but IMO she isn’t/wasn’t even ...   Feb 27 2012, 11:45 AM
scott_in_nh   I don't care for Jr, but at least at one poin...   Feb 27 2012, 11:59 AM
racerbvd   [quote name='scott_in_nh' post='1634527' date='Fe...   Feb 27 2012, 12:00 PM
rdauenhauer   EDIT Watch Superbike and MotoGP if you want to see...   Feb 27 2012, 12:39 PM
scott_in_nh   That's why I said "isn't/wasn't...   Feb 27 2012, 12:40 PM
PeeGreen 914   Weight doesn't help, but it has zero to do ...   Feb 27 2012, 01:21 PM
Richard Casto   Weight doesn't help, but it has zero to do...   Feb 27 2012, 01:41 PM
PeeGreen 914   [quote name='PeeGreen 914' post='1634727' date='F...   Feb 27 2012, 01:55 PM
scott_in_nh   [quote name='PeeGreen 914' post='1634727' date='...   Feb 27 2012, 02:28 PM
andys   Kart racers are aware that all classes have a mini...   Feb 27 2012, 02:30 PM
PeeGreen 914   Kart racers are aware that all classes have a min...   Feb 27 2012, 02:40 PM
rhodyguy   if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable of...   Jul 17 2012, 09:22 AM
dlkawashima   look at all the regular back runners who are NEVE...   Jul 17 2012, 10:59 AM
carr914   You make the Assumption that there are no Real Rac...   Jul 17 2012, 10:17 AM
scotty b   HMmmm July 17- Feb 27 = one long ass nap for Rho...   Jul 17 2012, 10:35 AM
carr914   Janet Guthrie could drive better than DP   Jul 17 2012, 11:41 AM
rhodyguy   i have no idea how this was on the front page scot...   Jul 17 2012, 11:56 AM
euro911   I was pretty good at kart racing when I was a teen...   Jul 17 2012, 11:58 AM
URY914   I just googled the Cope twins. Those are two crack...   Jul 17 2012, 12:20 PM
rhodyguy   way too big and obviously fake. prob obscure their...   Jul 17 2012, 12:26 PM
URY914   way too big and obviously fake. prob obscure thei...   Jul 17 2012, 12:38 PM
rhodyguy   :rotfl: . good one paul. NOT sandbox worthy for su...   Jul 17 2012, 12:49 PM
biggy72   I used to race in a lower class at the same track ...   Jul 17 2012, 01:12 PM
andys   Did anyone catch Kevin Harvick's comments post...   Jul 17 2012, 01:34 PM
carr914   if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable o...   Jul 17 2012, 05:03 PM
ConeDodger   if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable ...   Jul 29 2012, 07:17 AM
broomhandle   Vanina Ickx is also better than DP.   Jul 17 2012, 05:42 PM
carr914   Vanina Ickx is also better than DP. :agree: ...   Jul 17 2012, 05:46 PM
broomhandle   People in the US just like DP becasue they think s...   Jul 17 2012, 05:48 PM
struckn   Well, Danica's not hard to look at.......might...   Jul 17 2012, 08:09 PM
URY914   Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick's...   Jul 29 2012, 06:33 AM
Bullethead   Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick...   Jul 30 2012, 09:26 PM
URY914   Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick...   Jul 31 2012, 04:44 AM
URY914   OK Danica lovers, this one is for you..... http:...   Jul 30 2012, 06:55 PM
Spoke   Danica should take some of her racing prize money,...   Jul 30 2012, 07:30 PM
URY914   Danica should take some of her racing prize money...   Jul 30 2012, 08:26 PM
tracks914   I'm not a Danica fan or hater. I just know tha...   Jul 31 2012, 08:28 PM
URY914   http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2...as-ra...   Apr 22 2013, 09:39 AM
bulitt   JPM better get in gear also. There are expiration...   Apr 22 2013, 02:23 PM
bcheney   Danica update: Last night she scored from center i...   May 1 2013, 05:25 AM
iamchappy   Danica update: Last night she scored from center ...   May 1 2013, 07:40 AM
andys   NASCAR marketing, and varoius business journals un...   May 1 2013, 10:10 AM
Eric_Shea   :idea:   May 1 2013, 12:18 PM
bcheney   :idea: Finally....I knew I could count on you...   May 1 2013, 09:01 PM
bulitt   :deadhorse:   May 1 2013, 12:36 PM
URY914   Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASCA...   May 1 2013, 02:40 PM
andys   Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASC...   May 3 2013, 09:26 AM
URY914   Her few good finishs are a direct result of NAS...   May 3 2013, 06:38 PM
naro914   She's a good driver. Not great, just good. But...   May 2 2013, 09:19 PM
bcheney   She's a good driver. Not great, just good. Bu...   May 3 2013, 09:20 PM
bulitt   Shes good for the sport. Which I find particularl...   May 4 2013, 03:33 AM
carr914   Love her, hate her, her performance over time w...   May 4 2013, 04:21 AM
GeorgeRud   Say what you will about her, she helps the marketi...   May 4 2013, 05:57 AM
URY914   Once AGAIN yes, she is better than anyone here. Sh...   May 4 2013, 06:09 AM
bcheney   Once [i]AGAIN yes, she is better than anyone here...   May 4 2013, 08:04 AM
URY914   ^Brian, I think you have a future in politics. :D   May 4 2013, 07:39 PM
carr914   One thing is for sure...she is working her ass...   May 4 2013, 09:02 PM
bcheney   [quote name='bcheney' post='1859305' date='May 4 ...   May 5 2013, 06:14 AM
URY914   Google is your friend....." Patrick's di...   May 5 2013, 07:07 AM
Jgilliam914   Damn guys... Don't be judgin!! I am su...   May 5 2013, 07:25 AM
Spoke   She is there for marketing purposes. I think th...   May 5 2013, 08:21 AM
naro914   Hmmmm....5 pages on a 914 forum discussing Danica ...   May 5 2013, 03:34 PM
bandjoey   http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7oAl/coca-cola-raci...amily...   May 5 2013, 07:59 PM
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