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post Sep 18 2004, 07:41 PM
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Everything you ever wanted to know about 'copper', but really couldn't have gave a shit less.

Do check out the "typical uses" section at the bottom of the site's page.


http://www.copper.org/resources/properties...&unit_type=Both
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post Sep 18 2004, 10:15 PM
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couple weeks ago I started a thread "heating with headers" that covered the your thoughts of something up the existing heater spaces in the rockers. If I knew how to paste the link I would...
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post Sep 19 2004, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(ottox914 @ Sep 18 2004, 08:15 PM)
couple weeks ago I started a thread "heating with headers" that covered the your thoughts of something up the existing heater spaces in the rockers. If I knew how to paste the link I would...

Go to the thread you described, right click on the 'address' at the top of the page (browser), go back to this post, add reply, right click again and 'paste' the link. There's probably an easier way, but I'm a computer DA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Sep 19 2004, 05:58 AM
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I came across this image a long time ago. Someone's GT project. Nice copper lines.

BTW, does anyone know where I can get tube clamps like these?

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post Sep 19 2004, 09:30 AM
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Wow! That's clean looking!

I haven't seen clamps like that before, but you can accomplish the same thing (securing and spacing) using two of these clamps, and one common attach screw.

They're available at Aircraft Spruce for like $0.39 each.


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post Sep 19 2004, 10:14 AM
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First I am putting the cooler in the rear alongside the tranny.
Reasons are shorter hose length , less chance of damage and I need my trunk as the car is a driver.
Types of plumbing are all debateable but the old guy who helped us with various boats including a top fuel hydro and both the roundy round cars would never use hard lines unless they were steel. He also did not use solid wiring/single strand for the same reasons. One break and you are done. The chances of something severe happening are just too great. He also would frown on the use of steel braided covered hose in anything but a pure race rig as you cannot inspect the hose from time to time. The choice was always 300psi high temp Gates green stripe .

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post Sep 19 2004, 01:12 PM
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Funny thing about old guys......I know a shit load of em'.

Some have 30-40 years of experience.
Some have 1 year's experience 30-40 times.

The trick is tellin' which is which.
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post Sep 19 2004, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(street legal go-kart @ Sep 19 2004, 08:14 AM)
First I am putting the cooler in the rear alongside the tranny.
Reasons are shorter hose length , less chance of damage and I need my trunk as the car is a driver.
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Plus you get free ambient heat from the engine, exhaust, and tranny! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yippee! But seriously, you can get a little bit of cooling back there, but not a bunch. Even with an electric fan. If you need a lot of cooling, you might want to consider other options.
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post Sep 20 2004, 06:01 AM
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here's the link to heating with headers (hopefully)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...ng+with+headers

how about using the factory a/c condenser in the front trunk location? it comes with a box, fan, air scoop, a path for air in and air out, all in one self contained box.... I tallked to a guy at a track day in TX who was using the factory a/c box w/holes cut in front, the front behind the bumper plugs out, no ducting between the 2, and one large radiator w/thermostatically controlled fan, oil thermostat from the engine to the cooler. He said that set up dropped his temps 50 degrees!

I do think for the best cooling, hard to beat the factory GT system, but thats based more on observation than experience. How about it? Use the A/C option for those of us who like the stock front end.
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post Sep 20 2004, 09:01 AM
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Here's a couple of pictures of my setup


This is beautiful work. How many cfm's is the fan?
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post Sep 20 2004, 09:19 AM
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I don't know about the fan volume, but then engine (3.6 with no on-engine cooler) doesn't run hot at all. The fan is a Spal(?), I think. I can check when I get home. My design is a little different, but I wanted the fan to not only pull air across the cooler, but also remove heat from the tank and filter. I has worked fine so far.

I'll be happy to post specific pictures and/or answer questions.

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post Sep 20 2004, 11:42 AM
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I have spoken to Chuck Moreland more than once about doing the finned copper lines for a 914 (he sells them for early 911's..Elephant racing). If I can get more than 6 orders.. he will do them.

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post Sep 20 2004, 12:37 PM
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At The Boeing Co. we call those "marriage clamps". We use them all over the place where you need to maintain separation between the tubes. Look in any MaMaster-Carr catalog.
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post Sep 20 2004, 12:47 PM
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"marriage clamps" = wedding rings, no? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 20 2004, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(d7n7master @ Sep 20 2004, 10:37 AM)
At The Boeing Co. we call those "marriage clamps".

AUGGH.......another troll from the lazy B. This BBS....er ...forum is going down the tubes. Boeing of Poland is the bridge I live under. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 20 2004, 02:22 PM
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Copper oil lines in the rockers.
I thought somebody would say something about that.


Ok I know NOTHING about any of this but..... I ran AX Saturday and there was a 74 -6 conversion owned by Richard Gonzales and he has his cooler mount along the passenger side long. Looked to be two finned cooling tubes with the outer rocker panel cut to fit exposing the fins. I asked him how well that worked and he said no problems around town and AXing. He did say that when he ran a DE event with the PCA guys the temps got hot. It was a 20 min session and he left the track after 15min. He did say it was 95+ outside that day. I asked why he did it this way instead of a front mounted cooler and he told me that he didn't want to lose the front trunk space.
Anyway it looked slick. Sorry, I didn't have my camera with me, I will next month.

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PS - he sells 914 parts, you can find him in the classified section in pano. Maybe he could email you some pics of his setup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Sep 21 2004, 07:46 PM
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Hey, JP,
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) I'm at the McDonnell Douglas - Boeing in Long Beach, Ca.
We don't play troll games... We ROCK!!! Takes ten northern boyz to do my job & then they send it to "engineering-check".
Really liked your reference to "tubes" though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 21 2004, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(d7n7master @ Sep 21 2004, 05:46 PM)
Hey, JP,
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) I'm at the McDonnell Douglas - Boeing in Long Beach, Ca.
We don't play troll games... We ROCK!!! Takes ten northern boyz to do my job & then they send it to "engineering-check".
Really liked your reference to "tubes" though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 22 2004, 06:28 PM
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Those copper tubes in the rockers were bold looking.
I thought I would be the inventer of the copper cooling tubes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Always, too late.

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post Dec 2 2004, 11:07 PM
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Anything else you'd like to add, before I go with the 1/2" soft copper tubing with flared fittings?

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